[Mike O]

Ah yes spot on Mr. O.

And it should be said too cause ppl will say: "That's HK's swing??? What a pile of crap!"

When really...anyone who KNOWS knows his hands are Educated and he's demonstrating something.

1) Bucket were you paying attention - my friend from Canader- referred to me as Mr. O- take note you 1/2 of a machine- bucket of nuts and bolts! (Hey, haven't used the old hanging head thingy for a while!- back off.)

2) Regarding Homer Kelley's swing- His swing and golf game would be nothing to aspire to (that's the Politically Correct answer!) He's not your jock athlete. He didn't practice to be a good player. His best handicap ever would have been a 8. I play more in one year than the guy played in five or many more.

He was a researcher. Did he understand the concepts that he discovered in order not to hit fat/thin throwaway shots- absolutely.

Instead of rambling on- the point to make is this: It doesn't matter how good or bad Homer Kelley was at the game of golf- it is a separate issue from the validity of the information in the Golfing Machine. Said differently- imagine that you never have played golf and you read and read and over a number of years understood the entire Golfing Machine book and all of it's principles and all of it's detail, etc.- finally you decide to buy some clubs, step out onto the first tee and hit your first shot- well you can finish the rest of the story.