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Old 07-21-2007, 03:13 PM
Hennybogan Hennybogan is offline
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Thank you for so much insight....remarkable to say the least!

Got a boring question....How does a player prepare his bag?
Spike,

Most of the top players are very anal. They like things a certain way. You have the 14 clubs. Most carry an extra putter and driver--some much more. My guy has a zip lock bag full of new gloves that he has tried on and approved. He uses a new one everyday. Warms up with the one from the day before, and then hits a few shots with the new one before teeing off. Practices after with same glove. In the bag is an extra towel, raingear (if weather possible), bag for wallet and divot tools, coins, mini first aid kit (tape, bandaids, tape, clippers), 9 balls, sharpies (colored to mark balls and black for lines and autographs), tees, water bottles, snacks, etc. No wonder the thing is so heavy.

HB
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Old 07-21-2007, 09:24 PM
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Thanks for that, HB and for everything else you've taught us!
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:43 PM
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I assume this doesn't happen very often???:


Short-term career as pro bag-hauler

Canadian Open player fires caddy on 15th tee; Alexander, 69, steps in

July 27, 2007

Don Alexander, a pretty fair amateur golfer in his younger days, still loves to play the game and he loves watching it when the Canadian Open comes to town.

Yesterday at Angus Glen he got to do more. The 69-year-old Toronto fan was pressed into service as the emergency caddy after U.S. pro Jay Williamson fired his bag-man, named Mike Mollet, at the 15th tee.

"I was the pinch-hit caddy," Alexander told the Star last night, at his downtown home after wrestling the touring pro's 100-pound golf bag the final four holes at Angus Glen. His payment was a dozen new golf balls and a story to tell.

"Every year I love to go out and watch a group that nobody's going to follow except maybe their girlfriends," said Alexander, who played in the 1962 Canadian Open as an amateur. "I love golf and I want to see how these guys make their living out here. I got a pretty good group there, with (Scott) Gump, Williamson and (John) Mallinger. They shot some pretty good scores. There were only a few of us watching them the whole way.

"At the 14th hole, Williamson hit it over the green and he and his caddy started having words. It got hotter and hotter and hotter. I was talking to the caddy's girlfriend and she started giving me the background music and I thought, `Uh-oh. This isn't good.'

"At the 15th tee they went at it again and Williamson fired him on the spot. The caddy then threw a handful of golf balls into the lake and stormed off. Said he'd see him in the clubhouse, that kind of thing. Williamson turned to us – there were maybe five of us – and asked who wanted to go to work.

"A younger guy named Mike said he'd do it. I don't know if Williamson didn't want another man named Mike, or what, but he didn't want him. I said, `I'm your man.'''

Alexander, who played on a couple of Willingdon Cup teams, Canada's amateur team event, in his younger days, went under the ropes, hefted the bag and away they went.

"I told Jay, `You know, you've got talent on your bag. I played in this tournament in 1962. I qualified as an amateur. But I guess that was before you were born.' He said it was. I told him I beat Gary Player that year. Of course, I finished last and Player got disqualified.'''

"I think he had fun," said Williamson, who shot one-over-par 72 and wasn't anxious to discuss the whole incident. "He was a nice guy and he had played some golf."

After the round, Williamson hired a caddy whose player, Kris Cox, had withdrawn with a back injury. So Alexander relaxed at home last night with a beer.

"I think I earned that one," he said. "And if Jay wins this thing and he wants to write me a little cheque, I wouldn't say no."
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by asleep View Post
I assume this doesn't happen very often???:


Short-term career as pro bag-hauler

Canadian Open player fires caddy on 15th tee; Alexander, 69, steps in

July 27, 2007

Don Alexander, a pretty fair amateur golfer in his younger days, still loves to play the game and he loves watching it when the Canadian Open comes to town.

Yesterday at Angus Glen he got to do more. The 69-year-old Toronto fan was pressed into service as the emergency caddy after U.S. pro Jay Williamson fired his bag-man, named Mike Mollet, at the 15th tee.

"I was the pinch-hit caddy," Alexander told the Star last night, at his downtown home after wrestling the touring pro's 100-pound golf bag the final four holes at Angus Glen. His payment was a dozen new golf balls and a story to tell.

"Every year I love to go out and watch a group that nobody's going to follow except maybe their girlfriends," said Alexander, who played in the 1962 Canadian Open as an amateur. "I love golf and I want to see how these guys make their living out here. I got a pretty good group there, with (Scott) Gump, Williamson and (John) Mallinger. They shot some pretty good scores. There were only a few of us watching them the whole way.

"At the 14th hole, Williamson hit it over the green and he and his caddy started having words. It got hotter and hotter and hotter. I was talking to the caddy's girlfriend and she started giving me the background music and I thought, `Uh-oh. This isn't good.'

"At the 15th tee they went at it again and Williamson fired him on the spot. The caddy then threw a handful of golf balls into the lake and stormed off. Said he'd see him in the clubhouse, that kind of thing. Williamson turned to us – there were maybe five of us – and asked who wanted to go to work.

"A younger guy named Mike said he'd do it. I don't know if Williamson didn't want another man named Mike, or what, but he didn't want him. I said, `I'm your man.'''

Alexander, who played on a couple of Willingdon Cup teams, Canada's amateur team event, in his younger days, went under the ropes, hefted the bag and away they went.

"I told Jay, `You know, you've got talent on your bag. I played in this tournament in 1962. I qualified as an amateur. But I guess that was before you were born.' He said it was. I told him I beat Gary Player that year. Of course, I finished last and Player got disqualified.'''

"I think he had fun," said Williamson, who shot one-over-par 72 and wasn't anxious to discuss the whole incident. "He was a nice guy and he had played some golf."

After the round, Williamson hired a caddy whose player, Kris Cox, had withdrawn with a back injury. So Alexander relaxed at home last night with a beer.

"I think I earned that one," he said. "And if Jay wins this thing and he wants to write me a little cheque, I wouldn't say no."

Asleep


Your right this does not happen very often.

As to who fired whom, like most incidents there are at least two sides to every story. I saw the caddie on Friday and my understanding of the matter is that enough was enough (no caddie should ever take abuse), so he put the bag down, gave two balls to the player, threw the rest in the lake and walked off the course. There is a history here and comments coming from the rest of the group would tend to indicate that the player was way out of line.

The caddie had another job on Friday and the player missed the cut.

By the way a Tour bag weighs closer to 40 lbs than 100.

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Old 07-28-2007, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Overkill View Post
...By the way a Tour bag weighs closer to 40 lbs than 100...
Yeah, I was questioning that 100 lbs.
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Old 07-29-2007, 09:43 PM
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overkill,
could you post up a sample of one of your green charts please?i would be very interested to see it.

and thanks guys for a really great thread!

david mccallum.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by davidmac00 View Post
could you post up a sample of one of your green charts please?i would be very interested to see it.

and thanks guys for a really great thread!

david mccallum.
David

I'm working on doing such a post; have to figure out how to do it first

The one I'm working on (looks like a top. map) will blow you socks off////

Thanks for the interest


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Old 07-30-2007, 10:13 PM
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looking forward to it.
hi overkill,
thanks in advance,im sure it will impress everyone.
david mccallum.
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Old 12-26-2007, 04:16 PM
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Can't believe that this thread has been dormant for so long. A true treasure trove of knowledge pertaining to playing the game as opposed to swinging the club.

Hoping Bennyhogan and Overkill (is that you nickname on tour?) still looks over us poor hackers, I will chime in with a few questions of my own.

1) How do you know that the chemistry with a player is gone?

2) If you are the first to detect it, will you seek employment elsewhere? (taking one for the team kind of approach)

3) Is crowd control more difficult at certain venues, or is it more depending on your status on the leaderboard?

4) If you have looped at a links course, how does it differ from a normal tourney?

5) Have you looped outside the US? How was that?
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Old 12-26-2007, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn View Post

Can't believe that this thread has been dormant for so long. A true treasure trove of knowledge pertaining to playing the game as opposed to swinging the club.

Hoping Hennybogan and Overkill (is that you nickname on tour?) still looks over us poor hackers . . .
Regarding the dormancy, I can believe it. And it 'makes the case' for premium content.

Men are busy, and the professional caddy's day is longer than most. To date, neither Henny nor Overkill have asked for a nickel in exchange for their substantial contributions. At the same time, they have significant responsibilities apart from LBG, and it is unfair to ask either to spend their time answering questions and offering professional insights without compensation.

I will approach these fine fellows with the idea of hosting premium content -- a dedicated thread that will include still photos and video -- and let the marketplace determine the demand.

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