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That is really really cool :)

This place has the most awesome video - that was really great Yoda :)....

I think you just contradicted yourself Dave :)

Forget that, you just edited and added.

No worries Dave, when you said "No, I don't think Hogan's slow motion swing is a true representation of his full speed swing...I don't think the full speed swing is off-plane." i took it as meaning the slow mo swing could not really be compared to the full speed swing in regards to plane, which would mean the fading comment would be redundant.

That was GREAT!

I thought it was interesting to see that when they asked Mr. Hogan to do his swing in slow motion that he included the approach in the slow motion. He was saying that even the approach is part of the swing.

Heres a thing for interest.... - if there are any errors im sorry I was speed typing.....

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Originally Posted by Harvey Penick

THE SLOW-MOTION DRILL is a drill yuou can do at home and it takes much patience and many repetitions, but the time you spnd at it will pay off on the golf course.

Mickey Wright practiced this drill often. As an all-purpose drill that is good for whatever ails your golf swing, this is probably the best. You can do it indoors, so you can do it in bad weather or at night.

When I say slow mtion, I mean really slow, slow motion. If you think you are doing it in slow motion, do it even slower.

Swing the club very slowly to the top of the backswing. Always keep your eye on the blade of grass or the pattern in the carpet that represnts the golf ball; watching the clubhead go back is a terrible habit you can accidentally pick up in this drill and take to the course with you.
As you read the top of the backswing, replace your left heel solidly on the ground and at the same time bring your right elbow in close to your body. Very, very slowly.

Bring the club down in extreme slow motion about one third of the way toward the ball. Then stop a moment and hold it and feel it.
Now start again from your holding position and do it again-swing slowly to the top, lplant the left heel, bring the right elbow close to the body and stop about one third of the way toward the ball.

Do this four times in a row. Don[t get impatient and speed up. Very slowly is the key. After four repetitions, go ahead and make the full swing at last- still in very slow motion-into a high finish with the elbows out front and your coming up slowly as if to watch a good shot. Hold the pose. Feel it.

Now do the whole thing again and and again and again.

What is happening is that your golfing brian and your muscles are learning to start your downswing by planting your weight and moving your lower body to the left and you are coming to the ball from inside with your hands quiet, trailing and still cocked, not leading and spending energy.

Your golfing brain and your muscles learn just as well from repeating the swing in slow motion as from whapping awayon the range. In fact, it can be higher quality learning because no mistakes are bing made in the slow-motion swing....

Harvey Penick's Downstroke Waggle Drill

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Originally Posted by Mathew

Per Harvey Penick: "The Slow Motion Drill is a drill you can do at home and it takes much patience and many repetitions, but the time you spend at it will pay off on the golf course.

Bring the club down in extreme slow motion about one third of the way toward the ball. Then stop a moment and hold it and feel it.
Now start again from your holding position and do it again-swing slowly to the top, plant the left heel, bring the right elbow close to the body and stop about one third of the way toward the ball.

Do this four times in a row. Don't get impatient and speed up. Very slowly is the key.

This is the Downstroke Waggle of 3-F-5. In my opinion, it is far and away the best (if not the only) cure for that genetic deformity of the Golf Stroke --the Flat Downstroke Shoulder Turn (and its resulting 'Outside-In' Path of the Hands) [10-13-B #3].

Wasn't Bertholy also really into doing really slow motion repetitions also?

Thanks - it made some my 3-F-5 fog clear... :)

Mathew,
Yes, he was. And if I'm correct, Hogan visited Bertholy when he was rebuilding his swing to get rid of his hook.

Hogan And Bertholy?

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Originally Posted by mgjordan

And if I'm correct, Hogan visited Bertholy when he was rebuilding his swing to get rid of his hook.

Matt,

This is the first I've heard of this. I trained personally under Paul Bertholy in 1982 and can tell you he was not one to keep his lamp under the bushel basket. In fact, his penchant for self-promotion was the stuff of legend. He told me that he had worked with the junior Jack Nicklaus and was later disappointed that he was not credited with at least some of Jack's success. And, I have in my files literally hundreds of Paul's letters of recommendation from satisfied students. But as far as Ben Hogan goes...not a peep from Paul.

Do you know of an authoritative source for this information?