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Jeff 12-28-2008 11:27 AM

Aiming point concept
 
How do you use the aiming point concept in your golf swing?

Do you use the aiming point concept for one or more of the following reasons?

1) To direct PP#3 in a straight line thrust action towards the ball (aiming point) to ensure that one has clubhead lag.

2) To alter the shape of the hand delivery path.

3) To control the timing of an automatic release phenomenon eg. to convert from a sweep release to a random release, or from a random release to a snap release.

4) Any other reason.

Jeff.

Thom 12-28-2008 02:07 PM

1&2
 
My AP is always the ball inside aft 4 o'clock :golf:

Jeff 12-28-2008 03:36 PM

Thom

What's the purpose of having an aiming point in that direction? How does it relate to the questions that I asked?

Jeff.

Thom 12-29-2008 06:02 AM

for me
 
The thrust has to go somewhere, and the ball is not at all a bad point to direct it. And since the hands delivery path is tredimentional down, out and forward the inside aft of the ball at 4 o'clock is even more precise than just the ball.

The amount of lag pressure on #3pp can with experience be used to determine how much thrust is required to fly the ball a certain distance. Especially handy on putts, chipshots, pitches and other shots less than full swings.

The aiming point concept was hard for me to grasp in the beginning, and mulitiple questions regarding where the aiming point is exactly, always was answered: "you need to figure it out for yourself". So I guess it's one of the things you can't just figure out intellecturally and then do it, you need to go and dig it out of the dirt.

Jeff 12-29-2008 11:18 AM

You state the hand delivery path is down-and-out-and-forwards. However, that only applies to the second half of the early-mid downswing. In the early downswing, the hand delivery path is down-and-out-and-backwards - as can be seen in this photo of Hogan's swing.



Note the direction of arrow number 1 - it is slightly backwards (away from the target), and not forwards.

Jeff.

david sandridge 12-29-2008 12:53 PM

Nice pictures..but
 
You always put up such great shots and I enjoy them.
However This just shows the path of his hands but doesn't tell us where he is aiming them. It also depends on whether he reaches the top or the end on the backswing. From the top with the hips out of the way straight line delivery to a point determined by each individual golfer as per Yodas recent post on where that point is.

bray 12-29-2008 01:06 PM

I believe the hands move "backward" due to Axis Tilt.

However the most important part of the swing is impact...your defined section 2 where the hands are moving down, out, and forward.

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B-Ray

Jeff Evans 12-29-2008 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 59619)
How do you use the aiming point concept in your golf swing?

Do you use the aiming point concept for one or more of the following reasons?

1) To direct PP#3 in a straight line thrust action towards the ball (aiming point) to ensure that one has clubhead lag.

2) To alter the shape of the hand delivery path.

3) To control the timing of an automatic release phenomenon eg. to convert from a sweep release to a random release, or from a random release to a snap release.

4) Any other reason.

Jeff.

Aiming Point Concept
What a wonderful idea to execute the delivery of the hands and clubhead combined together as clubhead lag to a specific aiming point. Which could be the inside aft quadrant of the ball but does not have to be. There is where The Machine delivers the #3 Pressure Point to Impact Fix Hand Location at Impact with all Delivery Paths, Delivery Line, Pulley Sizes ect. because its structure is designed to do just that. says Mr. Kelley.

I like to passively aim my #3 Pressure Point to my aiming point only because I feel the orbiting clubhead better. The orbiting clubhead seeks out the delivery line but never directly only via the right forearm and the #3 Pressure Point. It is guided along that line to both arms straight configuration by the straight line thrust of the #3 Pressure Point towards the angle of approach quadrant of the ball or aiming point.

Clubhead lag technique is always both aiming and thrusting. Passively it is primarily aiming the lag pressure point and actively it is primarily thrusting the lag pressure point.

Jeff 12-29-2008 03:01 PM

JE

If one aims the hands in a straight line thrust direction towards the aiming point (ball), why do Hogan's hands first go backwards before they go forwards? Conceptually, if one thrusts one's hands in a straight line direction towards the ball from the top of the swing, then the hands should go in a straight line direction towards the ball (down-and-out-and-forwards), and not first go down-and-out-and-backwards.

Jeff.

Jeff Evans 12-29-2008 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 59669)
JE

If one aims the hands in a straight line thrust direction towards the aiming point (ball), why do Hogan's hands first go backwards before they go forwards? Conceptually, if one thrusts one's hands in a straight line direction towards the ball from the top of the swing, then the hands should go in a straight line direction towards the ball (down-and-out-and-forwards), and not first go down-and-out-and-backwards.

Jeff.

Not for sure what Mr. Hogans aiming point concept was! I think I see what you are talking about but not quite sure. What I do see is Mr. Hogan tracing a straight plane line with his right forearm and clubhead lag pressure point. I understand that the hands are directed to and through the ball or aiming point to both arms straight configuration. It could be Clubshaft Length, Handspeed or Release Point which are the 3 concerns of aiming point.
Apologizes that I am not much help on this I just don't know what his aiming point was or what he was trying to do on this stroke.


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