Downswing waggles
 

Friday, I had ten Pole-ies out of 400 Balls.
Then Sat had a hole-in-one, not far, 120 yds with 8 Iron.
The hole-in-one did not seems a big suppries after the
ten polies.

I worked on Downsing waggles. I finally understand that
the arms & club have to stay at the top during the shift.
Only the turn brings the arms down. I don't think that
to many peole understand this. As Yoda says, This May
be the Master Move in Golf. Yoda sure has some insite.

Delivery Man
 

Thanks, Donn, and congrats on your ten 'polies' and hole-in-one!

For readers interested in TGM's Pivot Stroke Delivery, study 6-K-0. Also, the Aiming Point Concept of 6-E-2 (which details delivery of straight-line Downstroke Thrust). Finally, the Delivery Path (of the Hands) Component (7-23) and its Variations (10-23).

Also this from 7-19 (Lag Loading) of the 3rd edition:

Using the Pivot (from the Feet) instead of Arm motion to set up Lag Pressure and Rhythm reduces the risk of losing them by "running out of Right Arm" and gives maximum Extension to the Lever Assembly.

:thumright

Now that is a great post. Thanks Yoda, can't wait to look that up.

Way to go Dkerb

References
 

Lynn, thanks for the references to put the Downswing
Waggles in prospective. My favorite topic on the DVD
is your demonstration of the Downswing Waggles. Everybody
should be required to watch. I have the Club Pro, a top
College player and a student using the concept. The sequence
at the top and start down sure has helped their swing.
Interesting, all thought that one needed to drop the arms and
hands with the shift left.

O.B. Left, thanks for you congradulations.

DKerby, Im thinking you would have to do that if you chose a Plane Angle higher than a TSP. You'd have to drop the Hands at least to a TSP Angle prior to an On Plane turn of shoulders otherwise the shoulders would take the hands and club to far OUT, over top of the Inclined Plane.

Back in the day of super high hands that shift was necessary maybe? Does this make sense? The TSP, the Hip Slide, the Downstroke Waggle all work together so beautifully.

Shift
 

O.B., I am finding that one of the main purposes is
to get the Right Shoulder on plane. If you do not keep
the hands and arms at the top during the shift, the
Right Shoulder does not get on plane. Also the dopping
of the hands encourages the weight to favor the right
side instead of staying on the pivot point. Then you
get a radial downswing instead of longitutional and get
more of an over-the-top move. If on the pivot point,
the pivot/turn pulls the arms down into the ball. Any
driving of the pivot with the feet/knees does not work
unless your shift is completed and weight stays on the left side.
Hogan said that he took the club up on a slot and into
a slot at the top. This is what I am looking for so that the shift, the Right Shoulder, hands and clubshaft
will all be on the same plane for the downswing without
compansations at the top. Other items in downswing waggles
such as extensor action and right hip back are certainly
a part of it. I am going to read and organize to the references
that Yoda metioned and try to improve my plan. As Yoda said,
the downswing waggle may be the "Master Move in Golf". I
believe it to be so. An iteresting point, people who sag
the knees have a hard time saging if the hands/arms say
put at the top during the shift/shuttle. As you mentioned
Homer said that if going to the end, you will need to
come back to the top for the downswing. A good reference
is the butt of the club pointing on the target line.
These are my thoughts for what its worth. Thanks for asking.
Donn

Power Package Delivery
 

The Downstroke Pivot is characterized by On Plane Right Shoulder Turn (toward the Ball) as led by the Hip Turn (motion) and Action (work). This Pivot puts the Right Elbow On Plane, and, therefore, the Right Forearm (and #3 Presssure Point) also On Plane (pointing at the Plane Line).

All this is prelude to Release. That is, the Left Arm overtaking the Right Shoulder Turn; the Right Elbow straightening; the Left Wrist Uncocking; and the Left Hand Rolling. In other words . . .

The Pivot Delivers the Loaded Power Package (including its bent Right Elbow) to Release. Then, the independent motion of the Arms, indeed, the entire Power Package, continues that Delivery from Release (via the straightening of the Right Elbow) to the end of the Follow-through.

:salut:

Thanks Lynn, never thought about the Pivot putting the Right Elbow on Plane before. That would be a very "late hit" with either Pitch or Punch elbow, delayed Release, small pulley wheel, lots of "right arm" left deal, I guess. A firing of #1 prior to the Right Elbow being on Plane being an earlier Release, bigger pulley wheel procedure. "On Plane" for the Right Elbow is late, I think. Isnt it?

It sounds like a TSP with a Slide and a Delayed Hip Turn maybe. This is to my mind one of Homers biggest contributions to a good players game. I have found this procedure to really work. A magic move if you will.

When you talk about the shift are you talking about the hip shift toward the target?