TGM Nut,
Really too much too discuss- I'll just hit the high points of my analysis.
You my friend are an ATHLETE! With that body you can flat out KILL IT!
Of course, not to start some big debate but you are absolutely a swinger- with angled hinging (don't get caught up in that not worth it- anotherwords it just is- if you decide to make certain other changes in your movement then it will change)
If you are just trying to fix a forward sway by whatever method say keeping your head back- and everything stays the same - you'll never fix it! Personally, I look at the big picture and what's going on here? Power, Power, and more Power! How do you emphasize it? Body goes down and forward on the downswing- that sets up the power move- which is the second half of the downswing to impact- you Pull up, Pull up, Pull up! What do you pull up with - everything!- the more mass you can get involved the further the ball goes! The actual effort is more Pull up and make that club head move to the right to maximize the lagging clubhead, Pull up and keep fighting that clubhead lag by making it go straight to the target or out to the right! Hey, it's a great way to have a powerful swing. And even that clubface wanting to make that horizontal hinge motion via centrifugal force is an additional lag affector because you're fighting that also- creating more lag. You're a lag junkie. So Power wise you have no issues- however, accuracy is fleeting- certainly not as consistent day to day as you would like it- you either have it that day or you don't! And each new day is a mystery until you're three holes into the round and realize the pattern of consistency for that day - whether it's good or not.
So besides the "forward sway"- what else happens as a result of that general "move" that I described- or better said what other problems do you have as a result of your chosen method of applying power? Not much hip rotation accomplished at impact. Notice the lack of spine tilt as you straighten out of it. Also, notice the really high hands after impact and into the finish- a much more vertical plane. The Chicken wing left elbow after impact - somehow works with these issues. In addition, it's all about getting that power into the ball- afterwards the finish is just impact fallout and not a destination for you - as the club bounces off the back and down to your side.
So that's what I see- the big picture and then how all the little pictures tie into the same big picture. So the question is this - Can you let go of the power mind set over the short term- 2-4 years- as you develop a more sound and accurate game - one that will eventually have an opportunity to actually hit the ball further but in the short term will not allow you to hit it as far? Not an easy road to take- believe me I know! Probably comes down to how badly you want to be a lot better and what your willing to do to get better.
Personally I wouldn't start with the forward "sway"- it's too integral to your pattern - you need to make easier changes first - and then eventually you can attack the forward sway if it is there still and you feel that you want to change it.
The easier changes are:
1) Work on maintaining the spine angle through impact and into the finish- Sorry no more pulling up for power!,
2) Professional Pose your finish on each swing-
A) for consistency,
B) To check if you still have spine tilt- which means you had it through impact
You can infer more changes from my post above - not so important which one you do- The question is which ones can you do and still hit the ball fairly well- while you are making the change?
How do I know all that- because I've done all those swings myself by experimenting at one time or another.
Said you wanted feedback- that's mine- good luck with the game.
P.S. it goes without saying that you need to go full out with all your shots including the short irons- because if you don't you mess the pattern up- you don't have that heavy lag feel etc.- of course if you are doing that and not hitting them accurately- then your one course of action is to say "swing more in control" and that is where you need to head but that thought won't work well with your swing- you need to change the movement first. You may have in the past flipped flopped between full out short shots and efforts to swing the shorter irons "in control". Unfortunately, while that's what makes the driver your best club- great lag and fairways that are wide enough where you are not concerned about accuracy- which usually produces good accuracy, but if you get a narrow fairway or have a short iron into the green and think about accuracy for one minute - you're dead! Lag junkies don't usually do well with accuracy thoughts!
Finally, I realize that I'm guessing so i could be completely wrong on all accounts- so if anything helps great- if it is all junk then move on. But if you are able to make those changes then on every golf day- you'll be able to completely control your ball and not just wonder where it will go.
Mike you may want to recruit this bruser to do your lite work.
He could probably hold up the Gremlin and drop it on peoples' heads.
Now G.O.L.F. . . . How come I need to fix my Forward Sway and he gets to keep his? Is it because I am a wus and he is a giant stud?
Mike you may want to recruit this bruser to do your lite work.
He could probably hold up the Gremlin and drop it on peoples' heads.
Now G.O.L.F. . . . How come I need to fix my Forward Sway and he gets to keep his? Is it because I am a wus and he is a giant stud?
Yes, I thought so also- he (TGMNUT) would be a good asset for the team- take bagger's neck and twist it around like a pretzel! Sorry - Day dreaming there for a minute. You said you needed to fix your forward sway not me! But I think you have it right- the wus/stud thing. Also could be that as of July 7, 2006 there were 2,999 members on the forum here that wanted you to take up bowling!!!! And PLEASE don't ask me to verify that statement by forwarding all 2998 PM's (Hey, Yoda wanted to PM me but he didn't want his true feelings in writing!- OK- well maybe he didn't even say it BUT if I had talked to him I'm guessing he would have even opened up the damn Bowling web page himself! And if he doesn't post to the contrary in the next 5 seconds well then it's confirmed! Now, get back on that sofa Wus Boy!)
Yes, I thought so also- he (TGMNUT) would be a good asset for the team- take bagger's neck and twist it around like a pretzel! Sorry - Day dreaming there for a minute. You said you needed to fix your forward sway not me! But I think you have it right- the wus/stud thing. Also could be that as of July 7, 2006 there were 2,999 members on the forum here that wanted you to take up bowling!!!! And PLEASE don't ask me to verify that statement by forwarding all 2998 PM's (Hey, Yoda wanted to PM me but he didn't want his true feelings in writing!- OK- well maybe he didn't even say it BUT if I had talked to him I'm guessing he would have even opened up the damn Bowling web page himself! And if he doesn't post to the contrary in the next 5 seconds well then it's confirmed! Now, get back on that sofa Wus Boy!)
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
Hang on! Need to find my Voo Doo Bucket Head buried in the backyard under the doo doo pile! Forget it- Let's put on the gloves and go for it- I'm tired of talking! When I'm done with you - I want a piece of your buddy EC- you know - he's the friend of yours whose hiding & shaking behind your sofa!
"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
First time I've seen this quote. Anybody agree/disagree? To what extent do you agree/disagree?
Okay, I need a little more help. My question is if I take my grip at impact fix with an 8 iron, assuming a square-square stance/plane line and the ball in the middle of my stance, is it okay if the clubface appears closed relative to my forearm and wrist throughout the stroke? I hit the ball extremely well when I do this, and I want to know if this is okay. Thanks!
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Also could be that as of July 7, 2006 there were 2,999 members on the forum here that wanted you to take up bowling!!!! And PLEASE don't ask me to verify that statement by forwarding all 2998 PM's (Hey, Yoda wanted to PM me but he didn't want his true feelings in writing!- OK- well maybe he didn't even say it BUT if I had talked to him I'm guessing he would have even opened up the damn Bowling web page himself! And if he doesn't post to the contrary in the next 5 seconds well then it's confirmed! Now, get back on that sofa Wus Boy!)
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