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Old 11-25-2006, 11:51 AM
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Getting towards the end of the bucket of balls, Yoda had me hit some drivers just to finish things off. Again, the block rights appeared and the route cause of which was…you guess it ‘Roundhousing’ My right hip was getting in the way of things as well so Yoda suggested that I’d set up with a closed stance (I can’t remember whether it was 10-5-C or 10-5-E that was suggested…..Yoda??) This allowed my to hit the ball from the inside with the driver and stop the roundhousing (coupled with the downstroke waggles) when I did this right, I was hitting the driver a lot better and started even drawing it too!!! For someone who has lived with a slice or a push fade all his golfing life, this was amazing thing to see.
In conjunction with numerous, correctly-performed Start Down Waggles, Alex used the Closed Plane Line and Stance Line of 10-5-E to rid him of his Roundhousing Down Stroke.

Tracing the slightly-Closed Plane Line promoted a true Inside-Out Stroke and its Draw tendency. The Closed Stance Line took the Right Hip out of the way of the Right Elbow (in both directions) and enabled his Hands to remain On Plane (a delightful alternative to his old Over-the-Top move).

Alex combined these alignments with his new Horizontal Hinge Action Wrist Roll through Impact and, also, his strong Swivel into the Finish. The end result was consistent and truly spectacular: High, hard Draws 20-40 yards longer than his 'usual.'

Congratulations, Alex!



Oh, one more thing...

The next day I brought out an old Alex Morrison book, Better Golf Without Practice, and turned to a Down-the-Line Driver sequence of a young Sam Snead. A white Line parallel to the Target Line had been painted down the entire length of the Fairway, and Sam's slightly-Closed alignments -- including his In-to-Out Tracing Right Forearm -- were apparent.

"Hey, that's just what I'm doing now!" said Alex.

"Right you are," beamed 'ol Yoda, "Right you are."

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Old 11-25-2006, 12:10 PM
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great stuff once again...when is the Brian Gay thang coming out? sounds awesome.
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Old 11-25-2006, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
In conjunction with numerous, correctly-performed Start Down Waggles, Alex used the Closed Plane Line and Stance Line of 10-5-E to rid him of his Roundhousing Down Stroke.

Tracing the slightly-Closed Plane Line promoted a true Inside-Out Stroke and its Draw tendency. The Closed Stance Line took the Right Hip out of the way of the Right Elbow (in both directions) and enabled his Hands to remain On Plane (a delightful alternative to his old Over-the-Top move).

Alex combined these alignments with his new Horizontal Hinge Action Wrist Roll through Impact and, also, his strong Swivel into the Finish. The end result was consistent and truly spectacular: High, hard Draws 20-40 yards longer than his 'usual.'

Congratulations, Alex!



Oh, one more thing...

The next day I brought out an old Alex Morrison book, Better Golf Without Practice, and turned to a Down-the-Line Driver sequence of a young Sam Snead. A white Line parallel to the Target Line had been painted down the entire length of the Fairway, and Sam's slightly-Closed alignments -- including his In-to-Out Tracing Right Forearm -- were apparent.

"Hey, that's just what I'm doing now!" said Alex.

"Right you are," beamed 'ol Yoda, "Right you are."

Yep, that is right!! Its amazing how this was known all those years ago but yet no one really mentioned it.
Also another player by the name of Ben Hogan set up the exact same way. He was an ok player from what I heard too
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:19 AM
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Extensor presssure?
Alex can you explain what you mean when you say

"Adding extensor action just added a lot of precision and structure to the backswing (Ted showed me how it is supposed to be applied the day before and I could not believe how much pressure it was!!) "

Do you mean you were stretching so hard it created tension or are you referring to lag pressure?

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Old 11-27-2006, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Daz
Alex can you explain what you mean when you say

"Adding extensor action just added a lot of precision and structure to the backswing (Ted showed me how it is supposed to be applied the day before and I could not believe how much pressure it was!!) "

Do you mean you were stretching so hard it created tension or are you referring to lag pressure?

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Its not tension, as everyone knows tension is not a good thing in a good swing. Its more of a taughtness, I could feel that downward/outward pull of the right hand against the left at address and all the way to the backstroke and all the way through the downstroke.
A little drill that you could do is to put on a jumper (sweater for the Stateside guys) but leave the left sleeve out. Now grab the left sleeve at the cuff area with your right hand and pull it taught. Make a backswing with the left sleeve taught. That is the feel that you want with extensor action and you maintain it all the way to top and then all the way down on the downstroke.
Lag pressure for me is felt on the right index finger/knuckle (PP#3) and I feel it most on the downstroke and at impact when I have that feeling of 'dragging the wet mop' You have to remember that the clubhead trails the hands and the pressure that you feel is lag pressure.
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Alex, really enjoying your posts.

Speed Chains are pretty cool eh? I have em' and love em'.

Can someone post the best demonstrations of the downstroke waggle from the gallery?

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Old 11-27-2006, 02:04 PM
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Alex, really enjoying your posts.

Speed Chains are pretty cool eh? I have em' and love em'.

Can someone post the best demonstrations of the downstroke waggle from the gallery?

Thanks,
Glad that you are enjoying the posts. I would have a Speed Chain in a second if the shipping wasn't so prohibitive......
For demo's on the Downstroke Waggle, have a look at the Jeff Hull series of videos and the Address Routine videos (if you are a swinger looking at Jeff's swing for the DS waggle is a fog lifter)
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Originally Posted by Yoda
In conjunction with numerous, correctly-performed Start Down Waggles, Alex used the Closed Plane Line and Stance Line of 10-5-E to rid him of his Roundhousing Down Stroke.

Tracing the slightly-Closed Plane Line promoted a true Inside-Out Stroke and its Draw tendency. The Closed Stance Line took the Right Hip out of the way of the Right Elbow (in both directions) and enabled his Hands to remain On Plane (a delightful alternative to his old Over-the-Top move).

Alex combined these alignments with his new Horizontal Hinge Action Wrist Roll through Impact and, also, his strong Swivel into the Finish. The end result was consistent and truly spectacular: High, hard Draws 20-40 yards longer than his 'usual.'

Congratulations, Alex!



Oh, one more thing...

The next day I brought out an old Alex Morrison book, Better Golf Without Practice, and turned to a Down-the-Line Driver sequence of a young Sam Snead. A white Line parallel to the Target Line had been painted down the entire length of the Fairway, and Sam's slightly-Closed alignments -- including his In-to-Out Tracing Right Forearm -- were apparent.

"Hey, that's just what I'm doing now!" said Alex.

"Right you are," beamed 'ol Yoda, "Right you are."

This is good stuff! Brings back memories of my Swamp visit.

Pokechop . . . .

I have always wondered about Sam Snead and his "closed" stance. Would you say he is a True Swinger with a rotated Plane Line or a Manipulated Hand Swinger?
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