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Old 01-31-2007, 05:03 PM
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Watching Lynn's videos on the swivel and roll on plane was key to learning the #3. After improving my #3 accumulator roll (lots of repetitions it did not come easy!) the launch monitor indicated that more loft was needed. My left arm roll was now delofting the club but producing a nice draw. I am tickled that my average on a launch monitor is now 260 yds versus 230 yds one month ago. I hit a few over 270 - 278 being my longest. The driver is a Nike Sasquatch 13 degree with a stock 45" shaft. Thanks Lynn and LBG golf!!
Interesting . . . What did y'all do to your #3? What was the diagnosis and what was the cure?

You don't have that 2-piece-snack-box driver do you? That thing looks flickdid.

230 to 260 . . . I hope that lil' green b@st@rd gave you your money back.
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Old 01-31-2007, 11:47 PM
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I have last years Sasqy haven't seen the box version.

I am left handed playing from the right side. I never had the proper swivel and flat left wrist ala Yoda. Reading the Aj Bonar articles helped clear the fog as well. He advises to roll those hand/arms as fast and as far as possible. I had to train my left arm to roll on plane. Lots of left arm only swings as fast as possible waist high to waist high with a weighted training club. I am convinced a proper #3 accum can add 30 yds.
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Old 02-01-2007, 02:17 AM
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I had to train my left arm to roll on plane. Lots of left arm only swings as fast as possible waist high to waist high with a weighted training club. I am convinced a proper #3 accum can add 30 yds.
Thirty more yards and, no doubt, a hefty gain in percentages GIR and Fairways Hit as well.

George Preisinger, PGA, then Head Professional at Marietta Country Club, Marietta, Georgia, taught me this move in 1964. His daugher, Carol, now continues the tradition as a Golf Magazine Top 100 Instructor at Kiawah Island, South Carolina. http://www.carolpreisinger.com/index.html

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Old 02-01-2007, 10:44 AM
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The rolling left arm is not natural (at least for me) - I finally figured out how Yoda does it. I am still practicing it every day so I do not lose it.

And why did I have to figure it out?
To quote Yoda from the Swivel video clip - my #1 Yoda video.

"because that's where the Golfing Machine lives, that's why"
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Old 10-08-2008, 06:15 AM
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I've got a lot of respect for Tom's writing.

He found in a test of 50 golfers over a wide range of handicaps only a 1 yard difference in length between 43" and 45" drivers.

But a huge difference in accuracy.

And that 90% of golfers would be better off with shorter shafts than what is sold off the shelf.

Tom goes on to say that each 1/4" you miss the sweetspot by will cost you 5 yards in distance. I'd estimate a 2" drop in driver length to cost a good amateur about 3mph in swingspeed or about 8-10 yards in distance, so Tom's tests are certainly believable.

But of course, the only way to know what's the best length is through painful trial and error.

And besides, shorter drivers give you less area to take relief drops in.
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Old 10-08-2008, 06:24 AM
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The other thing is the pros using shorter than normal drivers. Tom claims this, I've seen it a few other places too and maybe it's true, but maybe averages can be misleading. For instance, Ping's pro players:

DJ Brigman: 45"
Calcavecchia: 45"
DiMarco: 45.25"
Hendrix: 45"
LaBelle II: 45.75"
Maggert: 44.5"
Mahan: 45.25"
Moore: 45.25"
O'Hern: 45.25"
Purdy: 45.25"
Slocum: 45"
Stroud: 47"
Sutherland: 45.25"
Warren: 45.25"
Bubba: 44.5"
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:14 AM
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I've got a lot of respect for Tom's writing.

He found in a test of 50 golfers over a wide range of handicaps only a 1 yard difference in length between 43" and 45" drivers.

But a huge difference in accuracy.

And that 90% of golfers would be better off with shorter shafts than what is sold off the shelf.

Tom goes on to say that each 1/4" you miss the sweetspot by will cost you 5 yards in distance. I'd estimate a 2" drop in driver length to cost a good amateur about 3mph in swingspeed or about 8-10 yards in distance, so Tom's tests are certainly believable.

But of course, the only way to know what's the best length is through painful trial and error.

And besides, shorter drivers give you less area to take relief drops in.
Aye, but what if you hit the sweet spot more often at 3 mph. less?! And if you play the shorter driver just remember to hit it 5-6" less off-line to ajust for the shorter drop radius
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