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Old 01-30-2009, 06:11 PM
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Just another point. Homer wrote his original book in 1969 (40-years ago). Although TGM is based on the laws of physics and circular dynamics, there have been many changes to the equipment. Metal drivers were introduced in the late 70s early 80s I believe. I think the first metal wood win was with a Taylor Made (could be wrong though). Today's exotic metals with unique characteristics are the norm. Every manufacturer has there "spin" on why their design is better but they all have one thing in common. Manufacturers have designed these heads to minimize spin and therefore increase distance. To minimize spin the ball must be hit on the upswing and the contact point (sweet spot) is above the center of the face.

If anyone has been fitted for a driver with a launch monitor, the data speaks for itself. Last year I went to Callaway's performance center here in my home town and was fitted for their FT-5 driver. I took several swings with my existing Big Bertha and was told that I had a negative attack angle and was getting too much backspin on the ball. I said that's the way I have always hit my irons and they said that is what I am supposed to do with irons. However with a driver, the manufacturers want you to have a positive attack angle to decrease spin and increase distance.

Could the new technology of the driver face warrant a different ball position?

Would luv to hear from a club manufacturer on this one.

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Old 01-31-2009, 02:45 AM
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Be weary of advice from club manufacturers. Think of irons as down and drivers as level. You are not a long drive guy. On the golf course, straight is long.
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Hennybogan View Post
Be weary of advice from club manufacturers. Think of irons as down and drivers as level. You are not a long drive guy. On the golf course, straight is long.
Track man and all the advanced science devices are wonderful for fitting as far as finding the optimal club and the optimal swing. What it doesn't consider is that you still have to find your bad ones. It's NOT all science. I'm sticking with Homer Kelley.

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Old 01-31-2009, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Hennybogan View Post
Be weary of advice from club manufacturers. Think of irons as down and drivers as level. You are not a long drive guy. On the golf course, straight is long.

Henny Great stuff.

How do the guys on tour adjust for an into the wind drive?

Some fitters would have us still hit up on it, the reasoning being the higher launch and the reduced spin into the wind.

Im old school and tee it slightly lower into the wind but am wondering about the extra spin this would add into the wind.

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Old 02-08-2009, 05:52 PM
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Lotsa sidespin
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Henny Great stuff.

How do the guys on tour adjust for an into the wind drive?

Some fitters would have us still hit up on it, the reasoning being the higher launch and the reduced spin into the wind.

Im old school and tee it slightly lower into the wind but am wondering about the extra spin this would add into the wind.

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ob
I think that distance is less a concern into the wind than the imperative to stay on the fairway...
In such a case, launch monitor's data is useless because no guy on tour will risk seing the ball catch the wind and go anywhere.

A few months ago I saw Villegas hit low powerfull boring drives with lotsa draw.

I think that the "boring lotsa draw" is very important because the spin energy is not say 100% backspin but rather 50% backspin/50% sidespin.

100% backspin straight shot risks the ball to "lift" up (venturi effect) against the wind.
The 50%back/50%side directs the venturi effect sideways and the ball won't climb in the air where it risks to meet even stronger wind resistance.
Ice on the cake, the "lotsa draw" will help regain yardage on the fairway roll.

So, my bet would be a ball back, closed face, closed stance setup to execute a powerfull low boring shot with lotsa draw and lots a (side)spin!
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:55 PM
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You are right and it should not go unoticed!
Metal drivers were introduced in the late 70s early 80s I believe. I think the first metal wood win was with a Taylor Made (could be wrong though).
You are right! Taylor Made in deed. Fellow Okie, Ron Streck. 1981, or 1982 Houston Open. Great guy...great lag!
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