Nice post, some really good info there. I think as golfers we all under estimate the rise and fall aspect of the golf course and we overlook how much of a difference it will make in the yardage. The more info about the shot at hand you can give a good player the more exact he/she will be.
Thanks for the info, I'll keep my eye open for an opportunity to try the other model of the 1500.
Pat
Pat
Where it really makes a big difference is when you play a course that you have never seen before. I was on the 13th hole at Weschester a number of years ago (second shot is very uphill) checking elevation with my clinometer.
A seasoned Tour player came by and asked me what I was doing; I told him and he said "well I've learned over the years that it plays about a club uphill ". I thanked him and said "well I've been here for 30 seconds and it actually plays 9 yards uphill. N and I were using this info for several years before it became of interest. However, when VJ started using my formula (about 6m before he became #1) the whole concept really took off .
Today, players and caddies on every major Tour in the world either use a clinometer or the pinseeker 1500. Just a small hint, when using the elevation part of the 1500, shoot your target at eye level so that you get a proper reading.
Last edited by Overkill : 07-16-2007 at 04:15 PM.
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Should you point the crosshairs at the flag or the base of the flag for best results?
Today, players and caddies on every major Tour in the world either use a clinometer or the pinseeker 1500. Just a small hint, when using the elevation part of the 1500, shoot your target at eye level so that you get a proper reading.
Today, players and caddies on every major Tour in the world either use a clinometer or the pinseeker 1500. Just a small hint, when using the elevation part of the 1500, shoot your target at eye level so that you get a proper reading.
This was the last sentence in posting #9.
By elevation I assume you mean slope. I do not have the one with slope as they are illegal for competition play.
I shoot at the flag and it seems to be easier to hit and just as accurate. I really like the 1500 during practice too. You can get a great feel for distances on the range and build confidence in half and 3/4 swings as well.
Pat
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i have the pinseeker with the slope option on it. This is a great tool to use durring practice rounds. If you take the slope difference and write it down then you have a close figure to what the hole will play when you are not allowed to use it. I generally take the yardages from my practice round as well as difference in slope and write it down, then when i get there the next day for a round, i have very similar yardages ( depending on the pins ) to what i have written down and seem to be within 2 to 3 yards of the correct distance.
i have the pinseeker with the slope option on it. This is a great tool to use durring practice rounds. If you take the slope difference and write it down then you have a close figure to what the hole will play when you are not allowed to use it. I generally take the yardages from my practice round as well as difference in slope and write it down, then when i get there the next day for a round, i have very similar yardages ( depending on the pins ) to what i have written down and seem to be within 2 to 3 yards of the correct distance.
G
To be as accurate as possible (because of the 3 yd varience when shooting a flag); during your practice round I suggest you take three readings and average them out.
Sorry for being so slow with this, I coudn't get the site to come up while I was in N Y (Barklays) this week
First off, there was a post somewhere about a virus running around. I think I may have caught it. I had a long drive over the weekend and stopped for fried chicken twice. The doctor says there may be hope because I only had the three piece dinner.
Since this hole has caused some problems, we want to eliminate the big number, so the driver is out. We want to find the easiest tee shot that still gives you a chance on the hole.
You need to do a little recon. You want to go down to the landing area and find the widest spot that still leaves you a reasonable second. Much of the time, the area will look much larger when you are standing there than it does from the tee. You may find that you think, "I could never miss this area with a five iron." Then measure back to the tee. If you don't have a laser, you could step it or just hit multiple clubs off the tee in practice. You want to figure the club that gets you just into trouble and hit one less. Don't try to do anything fancy with the tee shot.
If you tee shot leaves you an 8, 7, or 6, you should be able to hit the green a high percentage of the time.
HB
Mac is my boss . . . just bought one of them 1500 lasers . . . is it still illegal to steal?
Good advice. PLAN: Steal laser. Off to 5. Shoot laser. Make pars. Me likey.
OK on your "virus" . . . . that's a sign of evolution my friend . . . so you'll be developing some very interesting super-powers.