[phillygolf]

Great conversation!

Matthew - please dont take this the wrong way - and I admire and salute your effort in posting the pics, but in my humble opinion (yeah yeah, I know, opinions are like...)

The pics to me, are inconclusive. Retief looks like his might be up, Scott's looks like a 3 wood (versus driver), Vijay's looks like its on the upswing, and Phil's (in the background) looks like the camera is not level at all (assuming it would be level with the ground - again, see behind Phil's driver). Again, I applaud your effort, but feel they may be inconclusive.

My understanding is Homer certainly knew that Pro's can and do (no percentage's) hit the ball with their driver on the upswing - thus maximising roll.

Great conversation and I look forward to seeing more comments - if I get the chance I will try to post some pics as well.

Patrick