[golfbulldog]

Thanks for the interest guys, i read what you say but not sure if it explains where the pp3 sensaton is aimed if a swinger goes to "end" and returns to "top" ( i was using "top" a la Byron photo as shorthand for "top-of-the-line" rather than "top" as in every stroke, no matter how short, has a 'top' which need not be a "top of-the-line" position - ie shoulder height hands.

"10-23-C Top arc and striaght line. This pattern takes the hands beyond the top-of-the-line point, up and along an arc that is retraced when the hands return to the top-of-the-line point. This retracing is ideal for longitudinal acceleration with 10-19-C"

Homer was OK with a "top of the line "position on the downswing... now thats enough carpet burns, Bucket!
Bucket quote " must call you to the carpet on the Byron Nelson pic though . . . that isn't a Top pic . . . that is a START DOWN pic. "