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Nice post, some really good info there. I think as golfers we all under estimate the rise and fall aspect of the golf course and we overlook how much of a difference it will make in the yardage. The more info about the shot at hand you can give a good player the more exact he/she will be.
Thanks for the info, I'll keep my eye open for an opportunity to try the other model of the 1500.

Pat

Pat

Where it really makes a big difference is when you play a course that you have never seen before. I was on the 13th hole at Weschester a number of years ago (second shot is very uphill) checking elevation with my clinometer.

A seasoned Tour player came by and asked me what I was doing; I told him and he said "well I've learned over the years that it plays about a club uphill ". I thanked him and said "well I've been here for 30 seconds and it actually plays 9 yards uphill. N and I were using this info for several years before it became of interest. However, when VJ started using my formula (about 6m before he became #1) the whole concept really took off .

Today, players and caddies on every major Tour in the world either use a clinometer or the pinseeker 1500. Just a small hint, when using the elevation part of the 1500, shoot your target at eye level so that you get a proper reading.