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As per my redman post that is how Redman teaches the grip. Hang your left arm relaxed and grip the club without any forearm rotation in either direction.

Dave

Right you are, Davel.

Paul Azinger came to John Redman's driving range in 1979 with his Left Hand Turned to Plane -- the classic super-strong grip (the thumb-forefinger "V" pointing outside the right shoulder -- and John never changed it. At that time, Paul was a freshman in junior college having a hard time making the golf team -- "I had never broken 70 and seldom broke 80 two days in a row." Three years later he was on the PGA TOUR, and eight years later, was named PGA TOUR Player of the Year.



Read all about Paul's journey and the techniques that took him to the top in John's book, John Redman's Essentials Of The Golf Swing. The 'remaindered' market for the book is very buyer-friendly at the moment: Some very valuable information is between hard covers and can be yours for only a penny -- $0.01 -- and shipping charges. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...7029824&sr=1-1

All that said, I dare say that Paul's 'hanging arm grip' would be decidedly less Turned to the right, i.e., more "neutral" (Rolled to the left). To show as many knuckles as Paul does, that left shoulder has to have a pretty severe 'anterior rotation' (a term I've learned from our own Vickie Lake). Thanks, Vickie.

Long story short (and using TGM terms for the benefit of the many members engaged in that study), what happened was that Paul brought to the table a Strong Double Action Grip (10-2-D / Left Wristcocking Motion on the same line as the Right Wrist Bend) and, with John's help, learned to use his Pivot (10-12-A / Standard Action) to originate and control Clubhead Power (10-4-D / 4 Barrel). Along the way, he learned to use Angled Hinging (10-10-C / Right Palm Paddle Wheel Action and No Roll Feel) to control the Clubface Alignment through Impact (or, as John would say, "No forearm rotation and knuckles up!").

And the rest, as they say, is history.