LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Pivot center Thread: Pivot center View Single Post #95 12-16-2008, 10:29 PM Jeff Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 701 Yoda - you wrote-: "You interpret this Shaft Bend as "Kick" that Lays Back the Clubface. The truth is that Shaft Bend itself supplies neither 'Kick' nor 'LayBack'." I don't understand your statement in the context of this photo. Jamie's clubshaft looks like it has bent forward so that the peripheral end is closer to the target than the central end. Do you believe that this phenomenon is not really happening" If it is really happening, why would it not cause clubface layback? Also, take a look at Jamie's forearm muscles. Very wimpy for the world's best long drive swinger I would think. I had a conversation with Jason Zuback and I asked him whether he used his right forearm/arm actively in his swing as a major source of power. He said that he didn't, and that he didn't feel that he was using any right arm power in his swing. Jeff. Jeff View Public Profile Find all posts by Jeff