LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Switting Thread: Switting View Single Post #8 12-21-2008, 12:19 PM Jeff Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 701 bts You wrote-: "It's ideal geometrically and physically for the "machine" to pull the club from the top, which optimizes the clubhead speed at impact, and push (the grip, or pp#3, to bend the shaft) at impact, which optimizes the ball speed at separation". This is the key point that needs debating. You are implying that a swinger needs to pull the club down to impact to generate clubhead speed. I agree. However, you then argue that an additional push force is needed to push against PP#3 to stress the shaft at impact, thereby optimizing ball speed at separation. That's where I think that you are mistaken. Ball speed is only a product of clubhead mass and clubhead speed at impact, and any additional pressure-force/weight pushing against the shaft at impact will not help increase ball speed. My reason for believing that fact is based on this myth-busting argument. http://nmgolfscience.tripod.com/collisions.htm The only factors that affect ball speed are i) clubhead mass, ii) clubhead velocity; iii) ball mass; and iv) CER. Jeff. Jeff View Public Profile Find all posts by Jeff