[KevCarter]

I dont understand this, what is a delayed turn? Is it a pre-turn? My dang big arse right hip is always in the way, on thing that can often help is to push it left a little at set up, kinda braced against the left side.

Greg, you need to spend a little time with YODA, it gets a little confusing, but I'll give it a shot.

From the 6th Edition

10-15-B DELAYED
The Shoulders lead and power the Backstroke Hip Turn – or at least lead. The Hips then take over and lead and power the Down-stroke Shoulder Turn. Use this Hip Turn to prevent overswinging. Turn the Hips a predetermined amount – or none at all – and then “semi-lock” them at that point before starting back with either the Shoulders or the Club. This will stop the Shoulder Turn at any preselected place, tighten the Left Side tension and set the stage perfectly for the Hips to initiate the Down-stroke Shoulder Acceleration. But remember, the shorter the Backstroke Turn, the steeper the Plane Angle (10-13-D). See 2-N and 7-17.

First, I prefer to think of it as EDUCATED HANDS lead and power the shoulders which lead and power the hip turn. Same principle, different "feel." Thanks YODA...

What Yoda taught me last summer, and it was HUGE for me, and is for you as well as are very similar, is that even though the educated hands lead and power the backstroke, we need a little bump to the right of the hip with a touch of a hip turn FIRST so the hands can go where they want to. If we don't start with that slight little bump and turn, our hands get directed by the right hip being in the way and no amount of education can help. The hands then take over the backstroke along with The Magic Of The Right Forearm.

Clear as mud? Probably, but I'm trying my friend.

Yoda, Please Help!



Kevin