LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Flipping Thread: Flipping View Single Post #5 09-16-2010, 01:25 AM BerntR Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 981 3)Swing at the ball instead of through 4)Don't rotate your upper body in the back swing. Tilt as far as you get and then do the rest with the arms. 5)Don't keep the left wrist flat. Give the hands a head start going down and let the clubhead pass the hands at the "right" moment. 6) Don't worry about making a proper follow thru. Only what happens towards impact matters. 7) (This was a tip from David Feherty. He gave it on a clinic in Oslo several years ago): To chip out of thick rough: Hit it before you hit it. (It works pretty well!!!) (number eight is in good shape today) Don't try to hit down on the ball. You must try to lift it up!! 9) Do whatever you want as long as you don't take a turf. 10)The false flip: Swing with both hands & let both hands combined be the flat left wrist. If you do it with a proper rhythm, if the club isn't in the process of outracing the hands, you will have lag pressure through impact even though the left wrist is bent. 11) Don't learn to pivot properly. Just focus on the right side and become a "hitter" instead. 12) Don't trust centrifugal force. Steer the clubhead instead of the hands. 13) Release accumulator #2 early and hard. Better to prepare the club head for impact as soon as possible. 14) Take deep divots (more about that below) Some of these are really bad, others are OK and some are desirable for the right shot. When I had played golf for about one season, a full 9 iron went max 100 yards. And it happened more than once that the ball hardly moved when I hit a full sand wedge from fluffy lies in the rough Even on straight shots the club just sliced under the ball. I really knew H2 flip the ball Kelvin Miyahira just posted a long story about different release pattern on the PGA tour. He presented pictures that showed that many of the best players in the world are flippers. If it's done "right" it's not the end of the world. Flipping is usually associated with a bending & break down of the left wrist prior to impact. That was also Miyahira's approach when he wrote about it. But if I understand English and a little golf, the golf flip is a motion where the left wrist is in the process towards bending prior to impact; from arched to bent, from more arched to less arched, from arched to flat, from a little bent to more bent or from flat to bent. Based on that definition you can flip into the ball or through the ball and get through impact and then some before the left wrist breaks down. As long as the left wrist is arching prior to impact and arched or flat during impact. I tend to take unhealthy deep divots from time to time. So deep that the distance becomes inconsistent. I attribute that to flipping. But even when I hit the ball well I often take deeper divots than a flip free stroke should produce. But it isn't necessarily a problem. As long as the left wrist isn't bent at impact you keep all your lag pressure. A punch shot is in this regard a flip waiting to happen. You gotta keep driving or CF will send the clubhead past the hands too early. You can keep the rhythm, keep the hands a few degrees ahead on teh swing path, but it's difficult. Second best is to have some left wrist left at impact even though the flip is blossoming. The acid test is to punch a lob wedge really hard and really low without taking a deep divot. Then you know that you've got your rhythm under control. The left wrist isn't flat when you do that. But it's deviation from flat has to be close to constant through the impact zone. It's like hitting the ball with a constant offset between the hands and the clubhead. You really need to hit the ball with your hands (and not the clubhead) to pull it off. The easiest way to eliminate flipping completely is to do what Daryl does: Use a pure swing pattern where centrifugal force keep the left wrist and the clubhead synchronized and basically on the same rpm through the impact zone. And where dead hands' doesn nothing to prevent this from happening. The price is that you will be unable to manipulate how high you hit the ball. You will hit it high. You can make the stroke even more flip-robust by applying a sweep release instead of a late snap. The late snap has a lot of clubhead speed and very little hands speed for a while and is therefore more likely to produce a flip. But if you sweep release you will get a long and nice journey towards impact where centrifugal force keeps the hands and the clubhead on the same rpm. As soon as you add a punch or some other form of active right hand in there, you introduce an additional lag in the stroke that CF just would luuv to eliminate before impact. And if you shorten the release interval and release late, you shorten the path where the hands and the club travel with basically the same rpm. But who wants to sweep through the ball with dead hands if they can add some snap and some punch to it? I do. But not in the long game. __________________ Best regards, Bernt BerntR View Public Profile Send a private message to BerntR Find all posts by BerntR