LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Full Blades/Musclebacks/ or Perimeter Weighted for #3 PP? Thread: Full Blades/Musclebacks/ or Perimeter Weighted for #3 PP? View Single Post #9 11-12-2010, 01:39 AM innercityteacher Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,900 Titleist ZB's, Who knew? Originally Posted by innercityteacher The clubs are a lot lighter than the perimeter weighted Callaway knock-offs I have been playing for 5 years (extended by 1.5 " each and the thickest possible grips). The Titleists Z's set up to the ball very clearly. My ball position is sharply back unless my stance is much narrower. The clubs have only one direction, DOWN. These clubs seem to really bite down and really seem to emphasize LAG pressure on # 3 PP. Once I feel the pressure engage, I drive my shoulder, hip or elbow DOWN, or I pull/drive the axe handle down, and the clubs is down and through before I know it except for a really loud, flat "Klack-ZZZ" sound. The clubs seem very light, and almost dare a person to see how powerfully they can be sent DOWN and UP and Around!. There is no doubt as to the direction of the shot. If I stay on PLANE, the ball goes straight and high! There was plenty of light at 4:30 p.m. tonight, but the ball just got smaller a lot faster! My Callaway knock-offs are "high trajectory" but these Z's are every bit as high in ball flight, unless I want to punch the ball low. Punching the ball low seems much easier. As a matter of fact, the ball seems to do whatever my #3 PP makes it do! LOL So that's why people play this kind of club! Any tips for using these, or things to watch? ICT My swing: I start out with Hula left and Impact Fix. RFT/EA/ BRW leads club to shoulder high top. LAG crashes against #3 PP. I post my front leg float loading and carry the LAG until I sweep release (fire right arm and spin the wheel) or wait until the BRW stretches out with LAG and punch the elbow/forearm through the ball (right through the ball) faster than the BRW can think to un-cock! With these ZB's, my head must be stable. Ball position is off my buckle and forward for hybrids and driver. I found a true dirt driving range. Grass stains on the middle of the club faces on irons and all clubs but driver! I haven't tried to work the ball yet. It's been too much fun not pulling/pushing/ slicing ball! The range balls fly directly where I aim the LAG (BRW/# 3 PP) on a rope! Houston, we have a problem. I hit a pitching wedge or two today that rolled about 140 after a right at the pin howitzer shot trajectory. I lost sight of the 7 iron after it flew over the 150 yard marker on it's way up. Then I lost sight of the 6-4 irons well past the 175 yard marker in the air. I always knew that my swing would be sound if I could hit the old Hogan Apexs. Standing Hula with my leg shortness in front must really magnify my LAG. I punched the Apex 3-1ron from inside my left heel to the end of this range on the fly. Mountain climbing! I wanted to hit the ZB 1iron if they make one! The hybrids (2 and 3) were high and long though the ball was not moving quite as fast off those clubs. Old ADams 3 and 5 wood were bullets as was the Adams Speedline driver. Being at an all dirt/grass facility really helped me simply fire my elbow/forearm through the ball. Yes, I measured my divots and their shape. While spinning the rim, the divots flare right of the target line and are the width of the blade at the end (the divot gets wider at the end). The end is past the impact strike by 3" and longer when I punch the elbow through the ground! I'm not sure what it is "supposed" to be but my Hula set-up (slightly open) helps me imagine the " angled fish hook" shape my BRW will make as my elbow/forearm shoots through the ball and ground. If I don't stay down through the strike, my hands sting. So, I stay down and let the club drag me around. The ZB's metal mass make feeling the LAG easier on my # 3 PP and a maintaining the lag easier as I drive/punch the elbow through. When I simply watch the club go through the ball, there is very little feeling and a satisfying sound. Just for yucks, I ended the day by flipping my BRW back to shoulder level and firing my elbow in almost one continuous motion. I got the idea from watching the pro's waggle only substituting the elbow thrust for down move.It feels very much like my college tennis forehand did but with a stable head. The ball keeps going up and down range! I'll need to work out the new distances and get a gap and sand wedge! ICT __________________ HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day! Last edited by innercityteacher : 11-12-2010 at 01:43 AM. innercityteacher View Public Profile Send a private message to innercityteacher Find all posts by innercityteacher