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Old 03-02-2007, 01:58 PM
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Let's not forget the huge pile of trash DEEP into the woods that allowed Ernie Els to get RELIEF when his very stray Tee shot sliced into the trees. I forget where.


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Old 03-02-2007, 03:03 PM
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Let's not forget the huge pile of trash DEEP into the woods that allowed Ernie Els to get RELIEF when his very stray Tee shot sliced into the trees. I forget where.


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I think that was at the Masters one year. It was the year that had VJ, Goosen, Els challenging for the title (I think Tiger won maybe)
I remember seeing that one and you could see the ball move and then a Marshall /Member as well as the Referee said it was GUR so he ended with a free drop.
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Old 03-02-2007, 04:10 PM
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The Ernie Els "piled for removal" ruling of brush 30 yards into the woods was funny. Even more funny was Ernie, hard balling the official to make the ruling, the rules official looked somewhat frightened at what Ernie might do if he had ruled the other way.
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:12 PM
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The Ernie Els "piled for removal" ruling of brush 30 yards into the woods was funny. Even more funny was Ernie, hard balling the official to make the ruling, the rules official looked somewhat frightened at what Ernie might do if he had ruled the other way.
He also got to remove or lower a wire in a US Open that helped him beat, I think, Montgomery. Well some rulings have merit then.
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Old 03-02-2007, 10:26 PM
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The Ernie Els "piled for removal" ruling of brush 30 yards into the woods was funny. Even more funny was Ernie, hard balling the official to make the ruling, the rules official looked somewhat frightened at what Ernie might do if he had ruled the other way.

This reminds me of a true story from the Nicklaus era.

In those days, many rules 'officials' were not so official at all. For the most part, they were assembled week-to-week from corporate volunteers willing to assume the task. And while it may be unkind to suggest that they were 'pushovers,' just imagine for a moment that you are an IBM employee --Everyman -- suddenly face-to-face with Jack Dad-Gum Nicklaus (asking for a ruling in a PGA TOUR event). It is your worst nightmare, and it is happening to you now and on national TV.



Well, here you go...

The Great Man's ball had missed the fairway and was lying somewhat imbedded in scruffy grass. He called for an official, and to his delight, Everyman appeared.

"I think I should get relief here," said JACK. "It appears to be in Ground under Repair."

"Bummer, Jack, " said Our Hero, "but there are no white lines, and hence, no Ground Under Repair."

"HHrrummhh," grunted The Great Man. "Well, then," said he...

"The ball appears to be imbedded. I should get relief!"

"Hmmm...I don't think so," said Everyman. "The ball does appear to be imbedded, but..."

"We are not playing the imbedded ball rule today."

"I see," said The Great Man. "Well, how about a hole made by a burrowing animal? "

"With all due respect, Mr. Nicklaus, I see no such hole and no such animal."

"Thank you, sir. Just thought I'd ask!"

Then it's KA-BOOM and down the fairway. Just another moment in time. A moment often lost, by the way, in the early rounds and with the television cameras looking elsewhere.

These guys, especially those at the top, are looking justifiably for every advantage they can get. A relief ruling that saves them just one stroke per tournament equals one-quarter stroke per round.

The difference between losing...

And winning.
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Old 03-03-2007, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
This reminds me of a true story from the Nicklaus era.

In those days, many rules 'officials' were not so official at all. For the most part, they were assembled week-to-week from corporate volunteers willing to assume the task. And while it may be unkind to suggest that they were 'pushovers,' just imagine for a moment that you are an IBM employee --Everyman -- suddenly face-to-face with Jack Dad-Gum Nicklaus (asking for a ruling in a PGA TOUR event). It is your worst nightmare, and it is happening to you now and on national TV.



Well, here you go...

The Great Man's ball had missed the fairway and was lying somewhat imbedded in scruffy grass. He called for an official, and to his delight, Everyman appeared.

"I think I should get relief here," said JACK. "It appears to be in Ground under Repair."

"Bummer, Jack, " said Our Hero, "but there are no white lines, and hence, no Ground Under Repair."

"HHrrummhh," grunted The Great Man. "Well, then," said he...

"The ball appears to be imbedded. I should get relief!"

"Hmmm...I don't think so," said Everyman. "The ball does appear to be imbedded, but..."

"We are not playing the imbedded ball rule today."

"I see," said The Great Man. "Well, how about a hole made by a burrowing animal? "

"With all due respect, Mr. Nicklaus, I see no such hole and no such animal."

"Thank you, sir. Just thought I'd ask!"

Then it's KA-BOOM and down the fairway. Just another moment in time. A moment often lost, by the way, in the early rounds and with the television cameras looking elsewhere.

These guys, especially those at the top, are looking justifiably for every advantage they can get. A relief ruling that saves them just one stroke per tournament equals one-quarter stroke per round.

The difference between losing...

And winning.
Great story Lynn. I suppose if the players don't ask they don't get, they are after every advantage that they can get.
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Old 03-03-2007, 04:56 PM
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When you started working with Brian Gay i immediately recalled him from that putt in 2000. Would i have done so if he came second. Scant consolation but goes to show people are remembered for other things than just winning.
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