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Old 06-11-2007, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf View Post
I won't say dismiss the Clubface, just put it in the Zone it was intended to be in. "The Zones are a natural division of the action and their identities must be maintained", said Mr. Kelley. I still like Hinge Action in Zone 3 (my opinion only); Ball Contol and direction. The Clubface makes three Actions, that is it. It isn't meant to be in Zone 2 (again my opinion). But when you are throwing the Clubface at the ball you are putting it there; along with a host of other undesirables. So in this case it wasn't just Clubhead Lag, but "Clubface Lag" (for lack of a better term) executing a Hinge Action; Left Hand Clubface, Right Hand Clubhead.
But you do dismiss the clubHEAD no? via hit the ball with the pressure points?

Do you think a Swinger with all the Swivels using a Snap Release can focus on Hinge Action? Or does he just bring his Left Wrist in FLV and let CF do its thang?
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Old 06-12-2007, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
But you do dismiss the clubHEAD no? via hit the ball with the pressure points?

Do you think a Swinger with all the Swivels using a Snap Release can focus on Hinge Action? Or does he just bring his Left Wrist in FLV and let CF do its thang?
You always hit the ball with the pressure points in your Hands (monitor your hands); that is key to The System. If the Clubhead is monitored directly your game and your wallet will suffer.

As for a Swinger it is their choice. "True Swingers" don't worry about Hinge Action. They let CF have its way with them; there easy.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:20 PM
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cf will not produce a hinge action.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:53 PM
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Sorry Champ.
For the True Swinger, Centrifugal Force automatically and exclusively produces Horizontal Hinge Action. That is why ball location is so critical to produce the desired direction.
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:28 AM
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On-plane inertia
Originally Posted by drewitgolf View Post
For the True Swinger, Centrifugal Force automatically and exclusively produces Horizontal Hinge Action. That is why ball location is so critical to produce the desired direction.
Or should we say the inertia of the club traveling on a flat plane "automatically and exclusively produces a Horizontal Hinge Action"?
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The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
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Old 06-20-2007, 09:26 AM
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Or should we say the inertia of the club traveling on a flat plane "automatically and exclusively produces a Horizontal Hinge Action"?
I'll stick with my original post.
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Are we talking about CF or Accumulator 3?

Hinge Action is rhythm. Acc3 is rhythm control. Read the second paragraph of 6-B-3-0. True Throw-out action of CF aligns the clubface for Horizontal Hinging.

So where does CF end, HH begins, and how the heck can anyone divide this on the Swinger's DownStroke? A Swinger can have the 'feel' of HH being the Turn/Roll Action, so CF will sub as HH for the 'true' throw-out Swing Pattern. A Swinger CANNOT control the clubface like a Hitter. Trust in ball postion and alignments is all he or she has.

Hinge is Motion/Geometry and CF is Power/physics. Yin and Yang. No one or the other.

Does HH exist without CF? Of course. Educated Hands of a machine head can perform all hinge motions.

If you a SWINGER and prepare to execute a Hinge Action on an Incline Plane with 3-F-6- you are ahead of the game.

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Old 06-30-2007, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf View Post
For the True Swinger, Centrifugal Force automatically and exclusively produces Horizontal Hinge Action. That is why ball location is so critical to produce the desired direction.
This is my thought too.. 2 different and both effective pattern.

Look at Greg Machatton , Bobby Schaeffer, Billy Mckinney swing. 100% CF throwout. 100% horizontal motion.

Vs. Yoda's swing, Jeff Hull , the right forearm, "Accumulator 1" still gives the POW ! Different... Yoda's way is more Hogan's way, this way controls the Hinge better. 4 barrel swing, and so its possible.

So, the tendencies is not truly accurate and its possible to have angled hinging swingers..

Am i getting somewhere?
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This is my thought too.. 2 different and both effective pattern.

Look at Greg Machatton , Bobby Schaeffer, Billy Mckinney swing. 100% CF throwout. 100% horizontal motion.

Vs. Yoda's swing, Jeff Hull , the right forearm, "Accumulator 1" still gives the POW ! Different... Yoda's way is more Hogan's way, this way controls the Hinge better. 4 barrel swing, and so its possible.

So, the tendencies is not truly accurate and its possible to have angled hinging swingers..

Am i getting somewhere?
I promise you Jeffy and Lynnard ain't usin' no 4-barrel swing . . . You may see Lynnard rock 4 barrels on a hit . . . but not no swing. fahgitaboutdit.
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