World class summary, Edz! Does anybody have any idea how Duval and Couples, Daly (I meekly submit they use more of a 10-2-D) overcome the power reduction that 10-2-D represents for most, due to no transfer power. I use a 10-2-B, but all the long hitters I know have a turned left hand!
Again, fantastic summary!
I am curious to see how your question gets answered.
I would add another related question. If a swinger powers the golf swing with a 4:2:3 release pattern, what % of the total power is due to PA#3 release? In other words, does PA#3 produce power independently or does is it simply transfer power?
Another related question is how can PA#3 produce power independently if the release of PA#3 is essentially passive - due to external rotation of the left humerus that happens naturally/passively during the release of PA#4 and a small amount of left forearm supination, which is merely a passive reversal of the left forearm pronation that occurred during the start-up swivel action?
Does anybody have any idea how Duval and Couples, Daly (I meekly submit they use more of a 10-2-D) overcome the power reduction that 10-2-D represents for most, due to no transfer power. I use a 10-2-B, but all the long hitters I know have a turned left hand!
Remember, Grip Types, per 7-2, are taken at Impact Fix per 2-J-1. In the case of the player that does not use Fix 7-8 or adopt it into their Address Routine 3-F-5 than Impact itself can give the best indication for the Grip Type taken. In the case of Couples and many other longer hitters, who starts their motions from Adjusted Address 8-3, their grips are dramatically different from their grips during his Impact 8-10 alignments. Mr. Kelley sated per 7-8, In-put-Out-put Power Ratio also is utterly dependent on Hand Location at Impact.
You wrote-: "Mr. Kelley sated per 7-8, In-put-Out-put Power Ratio also is utterly dependent on Hand Location at Impact."
I understand that to mean that the there must be forward shaft lean at impact with a flat left wrist and bent right wrist. I don't think that it refers to wrist positional variations at impact.
You wrote-: "Mr. Kelley sated per 7-8, In-put-Out-put Power Ratio also is utterly dependent on Hand Location at Impact."
I understand that to mean that the there must be forward shaft lean at impact with a flat left wrist and bent right wrist. I don't think that it refers to wrist positional variations at impact.
Jeff.
My response was to clarification in determining Grip Type for Long Hitter (10-2-B vs. 10-2-D). "In-put-Out-put Power Ratio also is utterly dependent on Hand Location at Impact" was to stress the importance of how the longer Hitters achieve their length and the alignments of Grip Type. I did not mention wrist positional variations at Impact directly, but all of the reference numbers I mentioned can be tied directly with 4-0.
Do you believe that there is a causal relationship between wrist grip choice (10-2-B versus 10-2-D) and long hitting? If yes, could you please explain the mechanism?
Do you believe that there is a causal relationship between wrist grip choice (10-2-B versus 10-2-D) and long hitting? If yes, could you please the mechanism?
Jeff.
No, not in of themselves. the Hands are merely adjustable clamps that allow the Wristcock, but no Wristbend, but they can influence Zone #2 Arm (Power, Force) components. For instance, a 10-2-B will give you the best opportunity to maintain the structure of your Flying Wedges 6-B-3-0-1, but if your procedure is one that accelerates the Clubhead Radially and throws the Clubface at the ball, then by all means employ a 10-2-D grip (reference 2-P).
Lotsa people probably end up with 10-2-D grips because they started out slicing the ball . . . . subconsciously the probably figured out they needed to have the face looking left of the target so they could play their slice . . . . as a result they end up 10-2-D . . . . many call 10-2-D a hookers grip but most of 'em fade it.
World class summary, Edz! Does anybody have any idea how Duval and Couples, Daly (I meekly submit they use more of a 10-2-D) overcome the power reduction that 10-2-D represents for most, due to no transfer power. I use a 10-2-B, but all the long hitters I know have a turned left hand!
Again, fantastic summary!
In Couples case, he is one of the few modern day players who really harness CF, and the physics of swinging.
He still has transfer power, and IMO he does this because he 'cups' his left wrist at the top. That allows him to still utilize the physics of a swinger's sequenced release (transfer power), while not having to 'hold on' to avoid hooking (also compensating by his open alignments). Note that his back is taking the force of some of these compensations though.
I would consider Duval more of hitter's move, who doesn't use the swinger's sequenced release and PA #3 much. What he does have is the hitter's 'mass' at impact from his right side. As much as a swinger may be limited by 10-2-D, a hitter can take advantage, allowing a full right side drive of the right arm without fears of hooks.
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