In the 'drag the mop' clip - is Yoda doing basic or acquired motion .. looks a bit more than 2 ft. to me - but less than what I perceive as acquired.
Also, he seems to break his wrists immediately at start of takeaway - I thought the ideal way is to take everything back as one triangle unit until they break naturally. Thanks for any feedback.
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In the 'drag the mop' clip - is Yoda doing basic or acquired motion .. looks a bit more than 2 ft. to me - but less than what I perceive as acquired.
Also, he seems to break his wrists immediately at start of takeaway - I thought the ideal way is to take everything back as one triangle unit until they break naturally. Thanks for any feedback.
Drag the wet mop or Lag should be present in every stroke (although in Ernie's short game book he blades a wedge by letting the club pass the hands, weird). From memory Id say Yoda was in Acquired. Basic is a one Power Accumulator deal, in Acquired you acquire another Power Accumulator or two, a Pivot for instance if you're hitting your Basic shots with a straightening right arm only .
TGM uses the "Triangle" analogy too but with one side, the right side, shortening right off the start. Very different from the old "rock the frozen triangle" concept which promoted "pivot to hands" , an over turning of the shoulders sending the hands and club off plane. You can use the search function to research these terms. Mr Kelley was pretty big on the right arm bending, in fact he assigned much of the swing to just that action and labeled it "The Magic of the Right Forearm". Do some research and give it a try, you'll never go back to a frozen triangle I bet. I wont anyways.
Also search "tracing" as opposed to "covering", "fanning, bending" . Good luck with it.
The secret that people search for but never find is that right arm/elbow bending should never be used inadvertently to raise the club for standard stroke patterns. Once the amount of right elbow bend needed to match your chosen swing plane is determined at impact fix, returning to Adjusted Address will bend your right elbow to within an inch of Release Elbow Bend.
“Magic of the Right Forearm” theorizes that you only need one more inch of bend to fully cock the left wrist. So, HK found a perfect way to discover the amount of bend needed at Release. Furthermore, if you maintain that angle of bend from Backstroke through Release then you can return the Right Forearm to precisely the same plane angle. If you Bend more, then you’ll need to unbend the Elbow to return to your pre-established Plane Angle at Release. If you bend the right arm to raise the club, then throw the Golfing Machine book in the garbage. Raise the Club to the Top of your Swing with your Right Deltoid Muscles (Extensor Action). The amount of Right arm bend determines your swing plane angle. Extensor Action maintains that Plane Angle throught the stroke. Duh.
7-3 Furthermore, in compliance with 6-B-3-0-1, Bending and Straightening the Right Elbow will RAISE AND LOWER the Left Arm and/or COCK AND UNCOCK the Left Wrist with out Bending, Flattening or Cocking the Right Wrist. Practice this first at Impact Fix. So, the Right Elbow Action either powers and/or controls all three elements of Three Dimensional Impact (6-C-0) per 1-L-9. All this you will come to know as the MAGIC OF THE RIGH FOREARM.
I have to admit my below average intellect. For so many years I thought that you were supposed to bend your right arm to in order to raise your left arm. I’m an idiot. I never realized that Homer was simply stating that a straighter right arm has a steeper plane angle (the arm is higher at the top of the backstroke) and a more bent right arm has a shallower plane (the arm is lower at the top of the backstroke) and all of this is made possible because of Extensor Action raises the arms without changing the Bend. And very important to know he is saying that if you bend your right arm to raise the Club, then you will bend, flatten or cock your right wrist.
Why didn't he just say it that way and save me 20 years of frustration.............................
What a journey!
Yoda, that's why I played so well in Vegas. By keeping my head stationary, I had extension and didn't bend my right elbow further. Hmm? Maybe now that I understand extensor action I can move my head again...NO!
The BOOK has just been unlocked for me. Everything is clear, no more confusion. Without extensor action you will forever have Pivot Controlled Hands and swing on the Elbow Plane. You don't cause extensor action by pushing with right triceps muscles, extensor action is caused by the left arm check-reign when you raise the club to the top of your stroke with your right deltoid muscle, that way, your right triceps will tighten (push) automatically. THAT'S why Extensor action isn't listed under address in the mechanics checklist; because it doesn't exist until you engage right deltoid muscle. You have to artificially create extensor force for short shot power package structure. Thats why it says RHYTHM next to extensor action in the checklist, because extensor action holds the left arm against the chest (deltoid) so you won't pull down with your arms. Its a below plane force that counteracts the #4 accumulator which is an above plane force; thereby giving the #3 pressure point serious control to TRACE the PLANE LINE and travel ON-PLANE.
EXTENSOR ACTION is not FORCING the Left Arm straight..It's keeping the Left Arm from Bending the Right Arm so that the hands will stay the same distance from the left shoulder at all times without increasing or decreasing right elbow bend. Therefore, Extensor Action controls the Right Elbows Location at ALL times except Address and Finish.
Ive spent 25 years with this book. I want my diploma!
Wait!! The Journey begins anew!
I think it's called "The Magic of the Right Forearm" because once that paragraph is understood, the book "magically" becomes clear.
Thanks for the great post...just one question......in compliance with 6-B-3-0-1,Bending and Straightening the Right Elbow will RAISE AND LOWER the Left Arm and/or COCK AND UNCOCK the Left Wrist without Bending, Flattening or Cocking the Right Wrist. Practice this first at Impact Fix...
Originally Posted by Daryl
...And very important to know he says is that if you bend your right arm to raise the Club, then you will bend, flatten or cock your right wrist.
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Thanks for the great post...just one question......in compliance with 6-B-3-0-1,Bending and Straightening the Right Elbow will RAISE AND LOWER the Left Arm and/or COCK AND UNCOCK the Left Wrist without Bending, Flattening or Cocking the Right Wrist. Practice this first at Impact Fix...
Are you asking a Question KOC?
many hours later.............I get what you're saying KOC and I understand. I know, it was right in front of me, but I just didn't get it. Maybe I'm below average. But I stuck with it, I never gave up, never stopped believing. "If I only knew then what I know now"................................
After a few years of bending the right elbow to lift the club, I have dispensed with it and focus on taking the club back with the right forearm belly down. It has made a big difference.
[quote=Daryl;63282]The secret that people search for but never find is that right arm/elbow bending should never be used inadvertently to raise the club for standard stroke patterns. Once the amount of right elbow bend needed to match your chosen swing plane is determined at impact fix, returning to Adjusted Address will bend your right elbow to within an inch of Release Elbow Bend.
Daryl,
In reference to what is in bold and underlined are you saying that the impact fix degree of bend of the right elbow is not maintained in the adjusted address postion...AND that any bend during start-up is an effort to reestablish the fix degree of RIGHT elbow bend, AND usually not more than an inch is necessary?
I am hopeful that it will not take me twenty years by virtue of the fact that it did you!
The secret that people search for but never find is that right arm/elbow bending should never be used inadvertently to raise the club for standard stroke patterns. Once the amount of right elbow bend needed to match your chosen swing plane is determined at impact fix, returning to Adjusted Address will bend your right elbow to within an inch of Release Elbow Bend.
Daryl,
In reference to what is in bold and underlined are you saying that the impact fix degree of bend of the right elbow is not maintained in the adjusted address postion...AND that any bend during start-up is an effort to reestablish the fix degree of RIGHT elbow bend, AND usually not more than an inch is necessary?
I am hopeful that it will not take me twenty years by virtue of the fact that it did you!
No. I'm saying that elbow bending ceases at the end of the takeaway. During the Backstroke and Downstroke it's fixed, until Release, where it Unbends gradually to Both Arms Straight.
Pardon my density. If I started from fix, as opposed to adjusted what would my right elbow do? I may have botched what you were trying to convey. I thought that the fix amount of elbow bend, much like the right wrist degree of bend, is constant from start-up until release. Of course the right wrist bend is not lost like the right elbow bend. Please set me straight!
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