The left wrist only needs to be flat @ impact or slightly bowed. Once the ball has been fully compressed and the club enter's the ground it does not matter what happens next. As Hogan's core turned hard after impact the hands worked left and inside.
It does Matter. It matters a great deal. Please Allow me to explain.
We all agree that at Release, the Clubhead speeds up. It may speed up to 100 plus MPH; again, agreement. Much faster than the Hands; agreed. If you release too early, then the Clubhead will probably pass the Hands at or before the Ball is Struck if you try to Roll the Hands - agreed?. This Bends the Left Wrist, agreed. Then you have lost the Three dimensional Impact and have lost Clubhead and Clubface control. Are we in agreement? Therefore, you cannot adjust the ball flight and trajectory without gobbs of compensating manipulations. Pro's have such a hard time controlling the Ball Flight, they stick with one shot and play courses that SUIT THEIR GAME (Hackers).
If the Clubhead Passes the Hands a millisecond after Ball Separation, where you suggest does no harm, the cause began back at Release. The Clubhead is overtaking the Hands, but not with Rhythm, not with the same RPM.
You are only teaching your self to throw the clubhead and clubface. You are only learning Hand-Eye coordination.
Hogans core turned hard after Impact??????? Gibberish. NO MORE SO than any good golf swing would - as an automatic result of an On Plane Impact on the Elbow Plane. If you think otherwise, then you're listening to those Voodoo Witch Doctors on the Left Coast.
Burley are you referring "Swinging Left"or the Hands "cutting" Left? Id like to point out that Homer would agree the hands do , post low point move Forward, Up and IN. Homers "IN" being another mans "Left". This is a geometric truth. But the thing that is missing in the Swinging Left or the Cutting Left thing is the alignment to the Plane. You can swing left and be on plane or off. Homer wanted us to swing our hands or more correctly our Pressure Points On Plane and when doing so they will go left, for sure.
The term "cutting" left or to lesser extent "swinging" left has an implied direction to the golfers force that is well just Plane wrong to my mind. Per 1-L-10. Post Low Point , though the Hands are indeed traveling Forward, Up and In (left) the Force which is applied to the club through the Pressure Points is directed Forward, Down and Out towards the Plane Line. Any attempt to "cut" or "swing" the hands or the pressure points Left is to direct the Force OFF PLANE.
Alignments again. And Force. Geometry and Physics. Feel vs Reel. This concept is one of the truly HUGE benefits of TGM. Homer wanted us to Thrust DOWN and OUT towards the Plane Line while maintaining a bent Right Hand. The other side of the Flat Left wrist. How bent? To the degree established at Fix , per the shot at hand.
It does Matter. It matters a great deal. Please Allow me to explain.
We all agree that at Release, the Clubhead speeds up. It may speed up to 100 plus MPH; again, agreement. Much faster than the Hands; agreed. If you release too early, then the Clubhead will probably pass the Hands at or before the Ball is Struck if you try to Roll the Hands - agreed?. This Bends the Left Wrist, agreed. Then you have lost the Three dimensional Impact and have lost Clubhead and Clubface control. Are we in agreement? Therefore, you cannot adjust the ball flight and trajectory without gobbs of compensating manipulations. Pro's have such a hard time controlling the Ball Flight, they stick with one shot and play courses that SUIT THEIR GAME (Hackers).
If the Clubhead Passes the Hands a millisecond after Ball Separation, where you suggest does no harm, the cause began back at Release. The Clubhead is overtaking the Hands, but not with Rhythm, not with the same RPM.
You are only teaching your self to throw the clubhead and clubface. You are only learning Hand-Eye coordination.
Hogans core turned hard after Impact??????? Gibberish. NO MORE SO than any good golf swing would - as an automatic result of an On Plane Impact on the Elbow Plane. If you think otherwise, then you're listening to those Voodoo Witch Doctors on the Left Coast.
Core turn is quicker from not holding right arm wedge making hands disaper faster. Lower pivot does not release the core and makes the hands work up / left in Hogan's swing... Unlike with right arm release players who have to feel the shoulders stay back longer because of the inside arc swinging out to low point were the "LOWER PIVOT" release's the upper body to turn the core and by holding a right arm wedge it lets the club work up and left. 2 different release types.... I don't see how people can confuse this stuff!!!
Core turn is quicker from not holding right arm wedge making hands disaper faster. Lower pivot does not release the core and makes the hands work up / left in Hogan's swing... Unlike with right arm release players who have to feel the shoulders stay back longer because of the inside arc swinging out to low point were the "LOWER PIVOT" release's the upper body to turn the core and by holding a right arm wedge it lets the club work up and left. 2 different release types.... I don't see how people can confuse this stuff!!!
What book are you reading?
His core turn is not any quicker than anyone else.
Letting go the right Hand after Impact is not a release.
Hogan was short. About 5'1" I think (actually 5'9" in lifts). His clubs were Flattened. His hands were probably 2 feet above ground at impact(that's pretty accurate). It will look like they disappear because he swung on an almost Horizontal Plane.
It will look like they disappear because he swung on an almost Horizontal Plane.
True. Amazingly. The flatter the Plane Angle the more the On Plane Hands (Pressure Points) move In, or left post Low Point. A pure vertical plane would have no Out or In. A pure Horizontal Plane would have no Up or Down.
Daryl,
TGM being an "educated hands" system Homer suggested you take the #3PP straight line to the aiming point. How does this work if the the right shoulder is in control? Wouldn't you lose your #3 control?
He want be able to give you the correct answer because he is stuck on a basic pattern of the book.
Let me break it down for you Daryl, Hogan played the ball under his left arm pit but his feet were wider spread. At address Hogan Cupped the left wrist for 2 reasons 1.) it helped him align himself better and 2.) It helped him achieve the Harley move which keep the club not the hands from coming in steep! Since he played his stance so wide the slight lateral action he needed from the transition to get his left hip over his left leg changed his low point from the outside of the left foot to the inside of the left foot. Hogan's hands never continued out in a strait line past the inside of his left foot because of the right side hitting the golf ball so hard and the release of the right elbow. "AFTER" the ball was compressed the hard turn of the core and release of the right elbow moved the hands inside. This is why Hogan's "DIVOT'S" pointed / went "LEFT" with the tilted vertical plane he was on. Hogan flat or bowed left wrist was a product of the right wrist angle continuing to increase well after impact, working inside and up the plane. This action was achieved by rotation of the core and pushing with the right hand, it was basically a side arm palm strike with the right hand. Your so called knowledge has you boxed in your own mind and is limited knowledge.. 24 Component's, jillions of variations!!!!! Do you know them "all" Daryl?
Oh, Hogan was 5" 7.5 his arms were longer and about a hand height above the knee. His clubs were 6 degree's flat, the shafts are extreme stiff, the heels are grounded to set open and no chance of dig, and his grips are thick with 5 wraps and a coat hanger set as a reminder @ 5:25... The woods he played had no roll and no bulge. I watched him hit balls and talked to him in 1983 as a kid, his last round of golf was 1 1/2 yrs later and it was with Kris Tschetter. Anything else you might want to know about the man?
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Last edited by BurleyGolf : 10-19-2009 at 12:45 AM.
Did he counter balance them? Im not Tschett'n you I really want to know. Knudson's clubs where much the same and super heavy with a counter balance to get the swing weights back to normal. When I picked them up they were so heavy but after waggeling it around for a bit they felt like they'd work and just destroy the ball with their mass. They wouldnt let me hit them though.
Daryl,
TGM being an "educated hands" system Homer suggested you take the #3PP straight line to the aiming point. How does this work if the the right shoulder is in control? Wouldn't you lose your #3 control?
Train the Pivot to force the Right Shoulder to direct the #3 Pressure Point to trace the Base Line.
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