11 degrees is the most I have used. It really depends on the driver, how it is constructed, position of the center of gravity, open or closed, etc. I am currently using about 9.5.
I would be careful of hitting "down" with a driver. Any downward attack angle will increase the spin which is bad for a driver. I have done much better since I have taken the driver down to low point and had the ball just slightly forward of that. Better launch and lower spin.
Thanks for the reply golfgnome!
I'm not sure I'm brave enough to step away from the yellow book and work on that yet. So far, the principles I'm learning are allowing me to keep it where I can find it, guess I'll just have to stick with playing shorter courses for awhile...
Kevin
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Kev Im thinking it maybe isnt a step away from the yellow book if you consider the driver a specialty shot or special circumstance. You tee it at low point or in front of it to get the ball as far down there as you possibly can even it means sacrificing some measure of control, balance a 1-L or whatever. Heck even in regard to the steady head, I see a lot of pros hang back a touch with a driver. Maybe they wouldnt do it if they just teed it up more forward? A subconscious hang back that effectively moves their low point back dynamically for launch angle? Or as VJ Trolio would say moves their ball postion forward dynamically if you know what I mean.
Kev Im thinking it maybe isnt a step away from the yellow book if you consider the driver a specialty shot or special circumstance. You tee it at low point or in front of it to get the ball as far down there as you possibly can even it means sacrificing some measure of control, balance a 1-L or whatever. Heck even in regard to the steady head, I see a lot of pros hang back a touch with a driver. Maybe they wouldnt do it if they just teed it up more forward? A subconscious hang back that effectively moves their low point back dynamically for launch angle? Or as VJ Trolio would say moves their ball postion forward dynamically if you know what I mean.
I'm not saying it's wrong O.B. in fact most would agree. Remember, I've been saved from a nasty case of the driver yips, I just want to be sure I can find it, and the YELLOW book along with YODA and Jeff Evans got me playing again.
Once my back heals and I am able to play more and get my confidence back, I will for sure do some experimenting.
Not trying to step on anybody's toes, I have NOTHING but respect for golfgnome, and I would never disagree with his views on G.O.L.F.!
Kevin
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I currently hit MP-62's with are a player's CB, but I'm getting more and more into hitting blades.
I started to think about it the other day and thought of the top 5 ballstrikers that I grew up playing with and each one of them grew up playing blades, usually some old Hogan blades. I bought some MacGregor Tourney 985's and the difference is quite noticeable. It's almost like having one of those PSP training aids, but being able to play a round of golf with one of them. I have no problems getting them airborne, but if you mis-hit the iron, I'll lose 2 clubs worth of distance.
Anyway, I agree in not trying to hit down with the driver. I'd at the very least try to get the attack angle at about -1* as that's where the average PGA Tour attack angle is at with the driver. If you want a piece of advice, I would try to work on being able to hit a 10.5* titanium driver off the deck. I know I can do it with mine and do it with relative ease.
No matter what Club used -- Driver or Putter or somewhere in-between -- the Stroke is always executed Down Plane to Low Point (1-L #13). When Left Wrist Velocity Power (6-B-2-0) is employed, that also means to Full Extension (Left Wrist Uncocked per 2-P).
The only variable, then, is Ball Position (12-3 #2 and Chapter 14 / Second Programming Routine).
All Strokes must comply with the essential geometry of the Stroke (Masters Execution / 3-F-6 per 5-0). Or, incorporate a Compensation.
No matter what Club used -- Driver or Putter or somewhere in-between -- the Stroke is always executed Down Plane to Low Point (1-L #13). When Left Wrist Velocity Power (6-B-2-0) is employed, that also means to Full Extension (Left Wrist Uncocked per 2-P).
The only variable, then, is Ball Position (12-3 #2 and Chapter 14 / Second Programming Routine).
All Strokes must comply with the essential geometry of the Stroke (Masters Execution / 3-F-6 per 5-0). Or, incorporate a Compensation.
Now it feels like home again!
Thank You,
Kevin
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Hmmm so even if you tee a ball forward of low point you must hit all the way Down and Out before the club eventually goes Up and In, post low point to hit the ball. The Down and Out bit being lost on most folks who simply try to hit Up..........and disrupt the clubhead orbit in the process. Im going to the dome today to try that out.