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Old 05-23-2010, 11:50 AM
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Following a dozen more re-viewing of Bens Chipping, Pitching and full Stroke procedures, it's become clear why he chooses to Hit the Chips, Float the Pitches and Swing the full Strokes. Because it uses the least amount of Adjustments to the Machine. He only needs to change Wrist Action to change Loading Action and switch Accumulators #4 and #1.

He has taken a very complex calculation of Power Application and simplified the Mechanics.

When I chip using Drag Loading; the Set-Up is a daunting challenge. Once accomplished, the stroke is easy. But why bother? Why not simply Stand Square-Square. Changing the Loading is more direct.

I made another observation, although not related, it's interesting to mention. Ben changes Plane Angle a lot. One swing he uses a Double Plane Shift and on the next, he's on the Turned Shoulder Plane. That's not indecision. I think his knowledge, training and execution are so far advanced that he adjusts the Machine to make the Ball behave exactly how he wants. He makes these decisions so fast that it looks almost unconscious. But it's not. I've caught him adjusting onto and feeling the Turned shoulder Plane in his pre-shot routine just before he uses that Plane Angle.

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Does he describe the Left Hand and the Associated Basic Plane for Hinge Action? What are the implications of a 10-2-D Left Hand Grip to that procedure? Its must change the geometry, Id imagine.
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Does he describe the Left Hand and the Associated Basic Plane for Hinge Action? What are the implications of a 10-2-D Left Hand Grip to that procedure? Its must change the geometry, Id imagine.
He doesn't go into detail. He mostly states: Full roll feel, No Roll feel, Reverse Roll feel - Cut-shot.

I may have missed something, but the Only stuff he says about the Hands is that the Palms should Face Each Other and That at Impact and/or Impact Fix, the Left Wrist should be Vertical.

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He doesn't go into detail. He mostly states: Full roll feel, No Roll feel, Reverse Roll feel - Cut-shot.

I may have missed something, but the Only stuff he says about the Hands is that the Palms should Face Each Other and That at Impact and/or Impact Fix, the Left Wrist should be Vertical.

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I may have missed something, but the Only stuff he says about the Hands is that the Palms should Face Each Other and That at Impact and/or Impact Fix, the Left Wrist should be Vertical.

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Thats good advice for golfers with a 10-2-A V/V/T or 10-2-B V/V/A but his own left hand appears Turned to my eye, cant tell whether the right one is or not.

Meaning he'd personally need to come into impact with that left Hand Turned as opposed to Vertical, would he not? Maybe he is offering "general advice" given Homers recommendation for a 10-2-B?
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Following a dozen more re-viewing of Bens Chipping, Pitching and full Stroke procedures, it's become clear why he chooses to Hit the Chips, Float the Pitches and Swing the full Strokes. Because it uses the least amount of Adjustments to the Machine. He only needs to change Wrist Action to change Loading Action and switch Accumulators #4 and #1.

He has taken a very complex calculation of Power Application and simplified the Mechanics.

When I chip using Drag Loading; the Set-Up is a daunting challenge. Once accomplished, the stroke is easy. But why bother? Why not simply Stand Square-Square. Changing the Loading is more direct.

I made another observation, although not related, it's interesting to mention. Ben changes Plane Angle a lot. One swing he uses a Double Plane Shift and on the next, he's on the Turned Shoulder Plane. That's not indecision. I think his knowledge, training and execution are so far advanced that he adjusts the Machine to make the Ball behave exactly how he wants. He makes these decisions so fast that it looks almost unconscious. But it's not. I've caught him adjusting onto and feeling the Turned shoulder Plane in his pre-shot routine just before he uses that Plane Angle.
That sounds like the most complicated mumbojumbo I ever heard of . . . Homer recommended ONE procedure . . . If he didn't have that face slinging around like Steelers towel back in the Steel Curtain days . . . he wouldn't have to do all that shifty mess . . . FANCY GOLF.
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That sounds like the most complicated mumbojumbo I ever heard of . . . Homer recommended ONE procedure . . . If he didn't have that face slinging around like Steelers towel back in the Steel Curtain days . . . he wouldn't have to do all that shifty mess . . . FANCY GOLF.




You're drinking that funny stuff again. Is Mike O staying with you? Homer would be patting Ben on the Back.

I'm watching his video as we speak and I'm thinking that it's a lot more interesting to watch Yoda demonstrating the 24 components. I must have seen him demonstrate just about every one of them and their variations. Too bad it isn't all caught on tape.

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Ben is doing the two club drill showing the #3 Accumulator Body Roll. Great stuff. Great great stuff. "Go TGM".


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You're drinking that funny stuff again. Is Mike O staying with you? Homer would be patting Ben on the Back.

I'm watching his video as we speak and I'm thinking that it's a lot more interesting to watch Yoda demonstrating the 24 components. I must have seen him demonstrate just about every one of them and their variations. Too bad it isn't all caught on tape.
Why would you want your standard chipping procedure to be Float Loading? . . . . I mean probably not a bad way to learn . . . but your standard procedure?

EDIT: My bad . . . . I see it's pitching that you Float Load . . . . already confused.

When in the video does he tell you to point the face at the ground?
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When in the video does he tell you to point the face at the ground?
Well, it is a Downward Angle of Attack. But, I think it's more of that Left Coast Witchdoctor Stuff being taught in Kalifornia now-a-days.

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