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Old 02-24-2011, 10:40 AM
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Or, make sure the clubface at impact is aligned between your target line and your in to out and down path for a nice little push-draw!!!

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This is a great point. I prefer this to rotating the plane to the left personally. More power and compression. Ict do you Rotate your Grip for balls played back in the stance per 7-2? Or perhaps you're getting the face open dynamically during the swing?
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Old 02-24-2011, 10:47 AM
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This is a great point. I prefer this to rotating the plane to the left personally. More power and compression. Ict do you Rotate your Grip for balls played back in the stance per 7-2? Or perhaps you're getting the face open dynamically during the swing?
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This is a great point. I prefer this to rotating the plane to the left personally. More power and compression. Ict do you Rotate your Grip for balls played back in the stance per 7-2? Or perhaps you're getting the face open dynamically during the swing?
I must've missed that one, OB. Are you saying we rotate or open the face for balls played back in the stance?

Imagine, me missing something out of the yellow book!

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That goes for me, too, ICT. Keep'em comin'!

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That goes for me, too, ICT. Keep'em comin'!

I had been so intent on my FLW that I forgot about adjusting my stance other than the Hula left weight left.

I did not think about 7-2 and rotating the handle which I'm sure will produce a draw.

I like the push because it is earlier in the arc and sometimes I hit a push-draw according to the simulator. In any case,the ball never thinks about crossing my target line. All of this will bend in April, of course, but the FLW and RFT with EA are always in season and will always help my game!

If I can keep my FLW and RFT/EA and Hula-Hula, I can be more consistent and more powerful than ever. Short of meeting with Lynn, it will be a good start to a golf season. Kevin, Daryl and OB, I will think about ball positions and feet placement. Actually, I had one bad hole last week where I hooked 3 -8 irons into the simulated Pacific Ocean. I couldn't correct it until I really opened my stance and slid the ball forward for a little slice. I'll experiment.

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Old 02-24-2011, 07:42 PM
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I must've missed that one, OB. Are you saying we rotate or open the face for balls played back in the stance?

Imagine, me missing something out of the yellow book!

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Rotate the Grip by squaring the FAce to the desired initial direction of the ball. See 7-2. As the ball moves back in the stance Hitters and Manipulated Hands Swingers (as opposed to True Swingers) Rotate the Grip (keeping the hands where they would be normally rotate the handle inside the loosened grip to square the face). Given a geometrically correct swing where you swing all the way Down and Out to Low Point you will have thereby created some Divergence in Path and Face Angle which will tend towards a Draw shot (to varying degrees depending upon Plane Angle, Loft , Angle of Attack , degree of Divergence etc.)

We need diagrams again.

So I was wondering if you did this or alternatively let the face open as you moved the ball back in the stance? The latter, in the absence of Plane Line Rotation would tend towards a straight push shot assuming the path and face angle were inline at separation.

There are other reasons for a straight push of course , like sliding in front of the ball say....but geometrically the straight push given a centered hit always comes back to the face angle and path pointing right.
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Manipulating the Clubface by Rotating the Grip changes the Clubheads Hookface amount. The Length of the Club determines the Plane Angle and therefore the Angle of Approach. Hookface is designed to match the Angle of Approach for each Club Length. So, a Wedge has more Hookface than a Driver because the Angle of Approach is reached much sooner as the Plane Angle progressively Steepens. If you move the Ball Aft, then it should also be moved inward.

I don't agree that a Draw Shot is a correction for a Push Shot and moving the Ball Aft may only compound the problem. The problem may be geometry. With your feet too close together, your clubface will be far too Open because Impact will occur before the Right Forearm and Left Arm Wedge can close the Clubface. The solution would be to move the Right Foot Aft so as to allow more time for the Clubface to close the appropriate amount before Impact.

Stance width should be adjusted for each club so that the Angle of Approach, Low-Point and Hookface are all aligned opposite the Hinge Pin at Impact. This requires that the Stance Width be increased for longer Clubs and for Shorter Clubs, as the Stance Narrows, you'll gain a progressively greater amount of Shaft Lean. The greater the Hookface, the greater the Shaft Lean: by definition.
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