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Old 12-16-2008, 08:01 PM
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You wrote-: "The other other way at looking at this is that he is managing his low point for the shot at hand. The ball forward of low point, his head back in an effort to launch a sky high ball for extreme distance. An artificial uphill type shot."

I disagree. He is making no attempt to hit up on the ball. He simply knows that if he gets his hands opposite his left thigh by impact, that the club's forward kick will cause the clubface to be facing upwards - if the ball is teed a little further.
Jeff,

Where in his post did O.B. Left say that Jason Zuback was attempting to 'hit up'? Reread his post. What he 'said' and what you 'heard' are two totally different things. I'll save you some trouble, here is what this very educated golfer deliberately said: ". . . the ball struck on the upswing, the ball teed high and inside the base of the plane."

In other words, with the Ball properly teed post-Low Point, there is no need to 'hit up'. The Clubhead Orbit (2-N-0) goes DOWN (and OUT) to Low Point and then it moves UP (and IN) thereafter. Hence, O.B.'s observation that the Ball must be "teed high and inside the base of the plane". So, for those who understand and implement these Geometric Basics . . . Just swing. The resulting Upstroke is God's Plan.

And, Jeff, you need to seriously investigate this "forward kick" stuff. At some point, no doubt you will. But no fair relying on manufacturer's 'claims' (advertising) or TOUR players paid opinion (more advertising) . . . we're looking for independent research and PROOF This should keep you busy for awhile once we've thoroughly hammered-down all this Pivot stuff. We here at LBG are with you all the way!

Meanwhile . . .

Know that the 'Centrifugal Line of Pull' is between the Sweetspot and the #3 Pressure Point (Right Forefinger). [BTW, did you notice the bandages on Mr. Zubak's right forefinger and thumb? I thought you did!] If the Clubshaft's inertia can keep up with this Line of Pull -- highly doubtful with the LongDrive MuscleMen -- then you will have a straight-line relationship. Otherwise, the Shaft will evidence its parabolic bend between the two.

You interpret this Shaft Bend as "Kick" that Lays Back the Clubface. The truth is that Shaft Bend itself supplies neither 'Kick' nor 'LayBack'. For Swingers, it supplies only Centripetal Force. For Hitters, it supplies both Centripetal Force and something to Push against through Impact.

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Old 12-16-2008, 09:37 PM
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Jeff,

here is what this very educated golfer deliberately said: ". . . the ball struck on the upswing, the ball teed high and inside the base of the plane."

In other words, with the Ball properly teed post-Low Point, there is no need to 'hit up'. The Clubhead Orbit (2-N-0) goes DOWN (and OUT) to Low Point and then it moves UP (and IN). Hence, O.B.'s observation that the Ball must be "teed high and inside the base of the plane". So, for those who understand and implement these Geometric Basics . . . Just swing. The resulting Upstroke is God's Plan.




Thanks Yoda

You know it's really your own words and Mr Kelley's that are coming back at you all garbled up.

Hope you didnt read my post 88 where I threw it all away like a Sunday afternoon hacker. Dont think that stuff is in the book and probably has HK tossing in his grave. I blame Daryl and Golfgnome.

O.B.

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