You state the hand delivery path is down-and-out-and-forwards. However, that only applies to the second half of the early-mid downswing. In the early downswing, the hand delivery path is down-and-out-and-backwards - as can be seen in this photo of Hogan's swing.
Note the direction of arrow number 1 - it is slightly backwards (away from the target), and not forwards.
You always put up such great shots and I enjoy them.
However This just shows the path of his hands but doesn't tell us where he is aiming them. It also depends on whether he reaches the top or the end on the backswing. From the top with the hips out of the way straight line delivery to a point determined by each individual golfer as per Yodas recent post on where that point is.
You state the hand delivery path is down-and-out-and-forwards. However, that only applies to the second half of the early-mid downswing. In the early downswing, the hand delivery path is down-and-out-and-backwards - as can be seen in this photo of Hogan's swing.
Note the direction of arrow number 1 - it is slightly backwards (away from the target), and not forwards.
Jeff.
Jeff
Congratulations on another good question with photographic evidence. You have clearly shown the hands moving backwards from the top but in 2-C-0 Homer refers to the Three Dimensional Downstroke as being, Downward, Outward and Forward. In the photos 9-2-6 (Top) and 9-2-7 (Start down) he also has demonstrated the backward movement of the hands but from 9-2-8 (Downstroke) the hands move forward as he claims and that tallies with your second arrow and the points you have made. It hinges on the definition of ‘Downstroke’. There are many misinterpretations but as usual using Homer’s definitions, he was correct.
Strav - you are correct that the downstroke 9-2-8 only starts from the mid-downswing. However, the hand movement in a full golf swing starts from the top (or end) of the backswing.
If people use the aiming point concept from the mid-downswing (official start of the downstroke of 9-2-8 ) then I can clearly see how one can use the aiming point technique to aim the straight line thrust at the ball. However, I cannot envisage using the straight line thrust action from the end of the backswing position where the clubshaft is parallel to the ball-target line and PP#3 is under the shaft.
I also do not understand what a straight line thrust really means for a swinger. A swinger should only experience enough pressure at PP#3 to sense/control clubhead lag because he is not drive loading the club.
I still have not seen anyone present any evidence that this straight line thrust action affects the hand delivery path - turning a circle delivery path to a straight line delivery path. Yoda stated that this "straight line thrust action" is used in all hand delivery actions (10-23-A or 10-23-E).
GBD - see my comments in the hand delivery path thread.
You state the hand delivery path is down-and-out-and-forwards. However, that only applies to the second half of the early-mid downswing. In the early downswing, the hand delivery path is down-and-out-and-backwards - as can be seen in this photo of Hogan's swing.
Note the direction of arrow number 1 - it is slightly backwards (away from the target), and not forwards.
Jeff.
Just off the lesson tee. Looks like some good points being made. I especially like the Delivery Path visuals.
One quick point, Jeff . . .
Aren't Photos #2 and #3 out of sequence?
Oh, I see now . . .
You apparently didn't mean them to be in sequence (they are in pairs).
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